Wait to get a ray until your 210 is set up. They are a huge load on your bio filter, and having one established is a must. Be prepared to upgrade your 210, especially if you have a female motoro. I've kept my rays on bb and sand, but as posted earlier, do fine on gravel. IF, by teacup, you are referring to, are retics, they are just as hardy as any other ray as long as its healthy to beging with! They would last a lot longer (if not for life) in your 210 than a motoro. Just some advice, I just got a large female about 16-18" disc and it makes my 3ft wide tank look a lot smaller than I had thought!
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It's 3-4" he stated, so he could keep a motoro regardless of sex for quite some time in a 210. He should be good for at least a yr.
But agreed, MUST be established.
Yes, I know he said it was small, but I don't think ppl realize how much space they really need until they see or keep one larger than the pups sold in store. It can live in that tank for a while, but if cared for properly will have to have an upgrade in a couple or few years.
Yeah, but on a scale he's talking, he's good for some time. It's good that he just waits for the 210, and skip the 55 all together.
The only thing I would wonder is the dimensions of the 210. 24" or 18" in depth? Just a personal aspect, I wouldn't keep a ray of any size in an 18" depth tank. I've done it with my 125, and it just doesn't look right no matter the ray size.
I would also let that tank cycle for atleast a full 6 weeks- not 2-3. I wouldn't want any water param fluctuations on a ray that small.
Here's a good small thread about growth experience:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?291530-Motoro-Growth-Rate-Male-vs-Female
Jesus christ thanks for the help this is why i didnt just read. I get to meet more aquarianist this way. The dimensions are 84x24x24 so 7x2x2.
Also to hurry the cycle along i would be adding cycle that has micro organism in it. I am currently waiting for my fx5 to arrive but when it does i was thinking of putting it in with my 90 gallon and letting it run in there for a few days so it can absorb some of the bio from that tank.
I was also going to put a couple of established sponges in there to also aid in the cycle.
Sounds like waiting till the tanks is up and running might be a better idea. Would keeping the ray in water above 82+ be any danger to it?
cause it will be housed with the jardini and i will probably be keeping it at 84 on average. It would be fed the same thing as my jardini which would be night crawlers, shrimp, tilapia and blood worms when its younger. maybe even krill
I realize they can grow to upwards of 30inches but thats after a couple of years and who know what i will be doing then. If anything id just return it where i got it for some credit. I mostly would like to just experience taking care of one and would be something id like to show off to some of my friends. Just for fun
I could only imagine its almost like a moving plate lol. yea i read somewhere that the teacups get to be about 14+ inches max which would still be huge in a 210 but i would hope that would take over a year to acquire. but defiantly will be waiting til my tank is established first.
teacup is a size not a type. Just be weary of that when buying. Normally it refers to a smaller type of ray but sometimes it is just a baby ray.
Blood worms won't do anything at all for a ray. I would just 86 them. Krill is great for stingrays. That's my ray's primary food of choice.
I feed my rays- krill, night crawlers, silversides, tilapia.. And my pike eats massivore, so sometimes, they get that as well. I have even fed mine clams, mussels- both out of shell, and even octopus. They eat anything.
I wouldn't keep it at 84 only because at higher rates fish metabolize faster, so you would find that you're feeding a lot. I keep mine at 76, and they are more active than ever. When I first had them in QT however, I did have the water in the 80's. But I gradually decreased it over time.
Fx5's use 50 watts of electricity, so have fun with that. lol. I have Eheims on my ray tank, and the 2 combined don't even use that much. Also, with an fx5 you will need to add more media, and yes, you could put it on another tank, but I would just put the tank together, and throw in some seachem stability, and let it do what it needs to do.
Sponge filters are great for Bio. I always keep sponge filters in my tanks (even if not needed) so that if I ever need to start another tank, I have something with bio on it.
I feed my rays- krill, night crawlers, silversides, tilapia.. And my pike eats massivore, so sometimes, they get that as well. I have even fed mine clams, mussels- both out of shell, and even octopus. They eat anything.
I wouldn't keep it at 84 only because at higher rates fish metabolize faster, so you would find that you're feeding a lot. I keep mine at 76, and they are more active than ever. When I first had them in QT however, I did have the water in the 80's. But I gradually decreased it over time.
Fx5's use 50 watts of electricity, so have fun with that. lol. I have Eheims on my ray tank, and the 2 combined don't even use that much. Also, with an fx5 you will need to add more media, and yes, you could put it on another tank, but I would just put the tank together, and throw in some seachem stability, and let it do what it needs to do.
Sponge filters are great for Bio. I always keep sponge filters in my tanks (even if not needed) so that if I ever need to start another tank, I have something with bio on it.
Thanks! is it true you have to feed them 4 times a day when you first get them?
BUt the l200 would be moved to my 90 gallon if it became an issue. which he will be moving because the 55 is just temprary till i get the 210 up and running then the 55 is coming down cause i am only allowed two fish tanks.
