STINKY water from new tank

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Vince said:
OK, well you have fish in there, and you feed it. Therefore, the wastes the fish produces becomes food for the bacteria. If you have a media from an established tank, the bacteria WILL reproduced and create more bacteria. Changing water aids the bacteria by lessening the ammonia in the water, and in turn also aids the fish against ammonia. If ammonia is contained to low levels, nitrite production is less. And addition of new water again creates an environment with less nitrate. It's not rocket science.


Your logic is flawed, and this is why-

Ammonia is not toxic to bacteria. infact, it is a food source and the first big jump in the nitrogeon cycle.

Heterotrophic bacteria eat away at dead matter and produce ammonia. which is then fed upon by a species of Nitrification bacteria that then produce Nitrite... The nitrite is eaten by another species of Nitrifrying bacteria to produce a chemical called Nitrate... and we all know what happens to No3.... NOTHING, generally, so we must remove it via water changes.

so, to suggest doing water changes to remove ammonia in order to aid the bacteria growth is rediculous and completely incorrect. infact, its the EXACT OPPOSITE.



You also suggested that if NH3 levels were low, then NO2 production would be less... this is common sense and logic can easily prove WHY this is.

Lets see... NH3 is a step BEFORE NO2 production.. so if there is less NH3, OF COURSE there will be less NO2....


its not rocket science.


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You know you will just take this into lenghts where you would not recede to your "theories". So, I will gracefully allow you to exalt yourself, since you don't seem to have a view of the big picture. This forum is not to argue but to share information. Sure, corrections are accpetable but not in a demeaning way. So whatever you are successful with, so be it. Regardless of what you do or say, my technique works for me, may not work for you, but it works just fine for me. So get back to topic, and let original post use what he feels would help his tank. Comprende?

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I was not questioning your technique... I was correcting your false information.
 
There you go again, abrasive, abrupt, and unrefined. My information could be false to you because of what you are made to understand by your local pet store. My information is based on what worked for me. So there, you can reply to this post as much as you like, but this is not related to the topic at hand any longer. Like I said, I will step aside, and let you bask in the glory of "winning" this moot argument. I will stick to my fndings, and you can stick to yours. How's that? That should be fair enough. Let's spare the rest of the forum members about this pissing contest. Move on. :lol2: YOU WIN! :thumbsup:
 
Vince said:
There you go again, abrasive, abrupt, and unrefined. My information could be false to you because of what you are made to understand by your local pet store. My information is based on what worked for me. So there, you can reply to this post as much as you like, but this is not related to the topic at hand any longer. Like I said, I will step aside, and let you bask in the glory of "winning" this moot argument. I will stick to my fndings, and you can stick to yours. How's that? That should be fair enough. Let's spare the rest of the forum members about this pissing contest. Move on. :lol2: YOU WIN! :thumbsup:


incorrect.... AGAIN.


You are suggesting that the nitrogen cycle is personal opinion and is a "theory" that I acquired from my LFS... when infact, the N-cycle is scientific fact.

You obviously have no education in the feild of biology and NO knowledge of it either. Therefore you pull out stupid ideas such as-

" My information could be false to you because of what you are made to understand by your local pet store."

which is completely incorrect and just plain stupid... It would be NICE if LFS did know this! and did teach people how the nitrogen cycle works and how to cycle a tank.. but they dont, they know about as much as you do.. which, from what I can tell, is little to nothing.

so before challenging my replys, you might want to do some research so you dont look like an idiot going AGAINST scientific fact just for the sakes of an argument.


its not rocket science.... LOLLLLLLL
 
i had the same problem with my tanks when i started the hobby 5 years ago- i was told by another board that it was not known why


i am positive that it was due to the cycle process

with water changes and extra filtration all was well inside of a week or two


cycling happens when a.you start up a brand spanking new tank or b. change the bio load of the tank
 
nick said:
i had the same problem with my tanks when i started the hobby 5 years ago- i was told by another board that it was not known why


i am positive that it was due to the cycle process

with water changes and extra filtration all was well inside of a week or two


cycling happens when a.you start up a brand spanking new tank or b. change the bio load of the tank


depends what you mean by cycling. The nitrogen cycle is forever working inside your tank at every given second. When you "cycle" a tank, you are basically growing a culture of bacteria large enough to withstand your ideal bioload.
 
PeacockBass said:
incorrect.... AGAIN.


You are suggesting that the nitrogen cycle is personal opinion and is a "theory" that I acquired from my LFS... when infact, the N-cycle is scientific fact.

You obviously have no education in the feild of biology and NO knowledge of it either. Therefore you pull out stupid ideas such as-

" My information could be false to you because of what you are made to understand by your local pet store."

which is completely incorrect and just plain stupid... It would be NICE if LFS did know this! and did teach people how the nitrogen cycle works and how to cycle a tank.. but they dont, they know about as much as you do.. which, from what I can tell, is little to nothing.

so before challenging my replys, you might want to do some research so you dont look like an idiot going AGAINST scientific fact just for the sakes of an argument.


its not rocket science.... LOLLLLLLL

your a straight up *******

nobody wants to heard your know it all answers, as your just out to make yourself feel better by demoralizing and humilating everyone else that doesent know any better.

few people here dont have an education in bio, thats why they "learn" it from other people and or experience

be nice with your answers pleeeease????
 
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