Strange Piranhas

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It has only been a month, right? Just wait...

I did the same thing with my red bellies, but I bred my own cons as gut loaded feeders. One managed to survive for 4 months until I missed a feeding day, and he was gone the next morning.
 
It has only been a month, right? Just wait...

I did the same thing with my red bellies, but I bred my own cons as gut loaded feeders. One managed to survive for 4 months until I missed a feeding day, and he was gone the next morning.

This. If you're P's are getting an 'easy meal' of pellets every day, they are probably being too lazy to work for their food. I would imagine if you skip feeding for a few days, you will find your shoal tankmate-less. If you like the Cons in there, just keep doing what you are doing and see where it goes. You may be one of the few P keepers able to pull off a community tank. Keep us updated!


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Why no manufactured foods? I understand they contain preservatives but I doubt that the negatives outweigh the positives. I travel a lot and it's difficult to have someone come and prepare foods for them. Also try convincing someone to stick their hand in a piranha tank to fish out uneaten food which is why I just have them feed floating pellets while I'm gone. Although watching them tear apart a fillet of fish is quite more entertaining than a pellet.

If these cichlids reach 4 inches without getting eaten would you guys think I would be justified in trying out the whole tank mate thing? Maybe some cardinal tetras? If I do notice them starting to go missing I could always throw them in my cardinal tetra,oto, amano shrimp tank.

You should never have uneaten food in pygo shoal tank you've had for a year +! (Unless experimenting with types or foods)

Amano shrimp & cardinals are just an expensive meal IMO. If the cons breed in that tank the piranhas will slowly pic off the fish but most assuredly the adult cons will be dinner(or too stressed to breed), it may not be today, next week, this month or even this year! All it takes is for some nosey piranha to spark interest and before you know it the whole shoal will stalk and kill! IMO there are no tank mates with pygo shoals, a mate is a fish that can live together and with piranhas that's just not possible. Yea some have kept random fish with shoals but eventually they will get eaten or terrorized so bad they wish they were dead and that is by no means a way of life...

With that being said I keep guppies in all my P tanks just because their small, 7 cents and they breed like crazy! Plus they always scavenge the crap that's on the sand, pellet waste is perhaps the worst! Glass shrimp work awesome as a cleanup crew/occasional snack as well but where I'm from amano shrimp are like 3-4$ a pop so I just stick with ghost shrimp. These combined will not only clean your tank but also act as random snacks for the shoal and there isn't any remains left over! Buy about 2 dozen guppies from a reputable lfs and throw them in, they will breed in no time and they will act as a healthy food source because they will eat the left over pellet crap and the piranhas only digest 50% of the nutrients when they eat (like all fish) so the pellet crap is a decent food supply!

Or get an auto feeder and calibrate it to drop 5 or so pellets per fish when your away..... I've had good luck with this method but after much research and experience adult Pygos can easily go weeks without food anyways, also since their adults their metabolism is slower meaning they don't burn as much energy, equating to less frequent feedings!


My adult shoal gets white fish fillet chunks every Sunday and pellets(NLS) on Weds or Thurs & they thrive! Hungry fish is a healthy fish and with extra food after feeding you may want to cut down on the amount of feedings! I feed a huge fillet every week and you would never think my shoal could eat that much food but they do because their hungry! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMlTNLAYG8E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Just some advice!



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You should never have uneaten food in pygo shoal tank you've had for a year +! (Unless experimenting with types or foods)

Amano shrimp & cardinals are just an expensive meal IMO. If the cons breed in that tank the piranhas will slowly pic off the fish but most assuredly the adult cons will be dinner(or too stressed to breed), it may not be today, next week, this month or even this year! All it takes is for some nosey piranha to spark interest and before you know it the whole shoal will stalk and kill! IMO there are no tank mates with pygo shoals, a mate is a fish that can live together and with piranhas that's just not possible. Yea some have kept random fish with shoals but eventually they will get eaten or terrorized so bad they wish they were dead and that is by no means a way of life...

With that being said I keep guppies in all my P tanks just because their small, 7 cents and they breed like crazy! Plus they always scavenge the crap that's on the sand, pellet waste is perhaps the worst! Glass shrimp work awesome as a cleanup crew/occasional snack as well but where I'm from amano shrimp are like 3-4$ a pop so I just stick with ghost shrimp. These combined will not only clean your tank but also act as random snacks for the shoal and there isn't any remains left over! Buy about 2 dozen guppies from a reputable lfs and throw them in, they will breed in no time and they will act as a healthy food source because they will eat the left over pellet crap and the piranhas only digest 50% of the nutrients when they eat (like all fish) so the pellet crap is a decent food supply!

Or get an auto feeder and calibrate it to drop 5 or so pellets per fish when your away..... I've had good luck with this method but after much research and experience adult Pygos can easily go weeks without food anyways, also since their adults their metabolism is slower meaning they don't burn as much energy, equating to less frequent feedings!


My adult shoal gets white fish fillet chunks every Sunday and pellets(NLS) on Weds or Thurs & they thrive! Hungry fish is a healthy fish and with extra food after feeding you may want to cut down on the amount of feedings! I feed a huge fillet every week and you would never think my shoal could eat that much food but they do because their hungry! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMlTNLAYG8E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Just some advice!



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Well cardinals only cost $1 each where I live and amano shrimp are 3 for $5. So its not money I'm worried about. Also the amano shrimp are much better cleaners but on the flip side they can't breed in fresh water. I would never try adding amano shrimp to the tank anyways. I was only interested in adding some cardinals, maybe 20ish, but this would only be if I make it to September and all the convicts are still alive.

I know your not suppose to leave uneaten food in the tank. I don't do this and I never recall saying I do this. Also I don't like using an autofeeder since there is no one around to remove left over food.
 
Also here are some pics and a videeo:







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Ive added platys, guppies, tetras, tiger barbs, convicts, mollies and all of them get eaten except for afew. I have 2 sunbrust platys that have been in the tank afew months now started with 5, 1 tiger barb afew months now started with 5 also and ive added prolly over 30 baby convicts and have prolly 15 convicts left the only time i notice the convicts being eaten is when they pair up and breed and get aggressive and protect the fry other than that my rbp dont seem to care about eating them. I tried adding a mixed cichilid before and it didnt last long so i know my rbp eat live they just dont really care for the convicts. I feed them 2-3 times aweek they're about 5-7in and i feed them massivore, fish filets, shrimp, squid, sometimes alittle chicken meat or gizzards not often though
 
I travel a lot and it's difficult to have someone come and prepare foods for them. Also try convincing someone to stick their hand in a piranha tank to fish out uneaten food which is why I just have them feed floating pellets

If you know the amount they consume so should the sitter, therefore my comment of uneaten food.


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If you know the amount they consume so should the sitter, therefore my comment of uneaten food.


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Well they don't eat the same amount everyday, some days they eat more than others. These are living creatures and life is unpredictable.
 
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