Substrate for Rays

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spryandspringy said:
I'd like to measure my success with one before I get another, but if all goes well I would consider two and see if I can get them to breed. I've had success in breeding a lot of species, but rays would definitely be something new. Then again, for two to be really happy, wouldn't I really need a larger set-up than 100g?

Well, just make sure your water is right (PH levels 6.3 - 7.3) have strong current.
Feed them regularly & you should be find.

As for breeding, you can try,,,,,,but not easy my friend.
 
tyson said:
So i see you are HORNY for these.... :grinno: :grinno: :grinno:

basket horse!!! cum post this kind of picture let us steam to the max only...
argh! Not only him le, anyone see this kind of pic sure want!

btw spryandspringy, pdr are one of the easy and hardier rays to keep. Like any other fishes, they are really active with warmer waters. PH wise, you got it from tyson. Which part of the world do you stay in? There is a thread in classified here, a seller from the states that sell beautiful Pdr. Have you check with him whether you can get any from him?
 
zhuangsw said:
basket horse!!! cum post this kind of picture let us steam to the max only...
argh! Not only him le, anyone see this kind of pic sure want!

Hahahahahhaaha :grinno: :grinno:
I like to make members here HORNY mah. :headbang2 :headbang2

Off course with proper care to ensure they last for future generations to come. :)
 
While I certainly cannot espouse any sort of romantic attachment to my fish, I can certainly understand your level of... um... enthusiasm.

What about the lighting question? In an indoor set-up, what do you suggest? You mentioned water movement; would a good power filter and an additional powerhead be enough?
 
spryandspringy said:
As for my plan for the 55g so far, I'm looking at "Tahitian Moon Sand" as a substrate. My initial research about the danger of in-tank heaters has me looking at the Tetratec systems and their large power filters with built in heaters. I'm also considering a variable powerhead to really keep things moving. I haven't read a lot about lighting yet. Any suggestions?


Dont use tahitian moon sand .They contain silica which is abrasive and will irritate the rays bottom. Use Estes Marine sand instead.
 
AHA! Thanks for the tip! I'll avoid the moon sand. Does the Estes brand sand contain biological matter designed for a salt water environment or is it not a "live" sand? Is it commonly available? What colors does it come in?
 
Its just fine sand. It can be used for salt and fresh with no problems. I know they come in a variety of colors.. white, black, green etc...
 
spryandspringy said:
While I certainly cannot espouse any sort of romantic attachment to my fish, I can certainly understand your level of... um... enthusiasm.

What about the lighting question? In an indoor set-up, what do you suggest? You mentioned water movement; would a good power filter and an additional powerhead be enough?

No, worries.....hope to see your tank, set up, & ray soon.

Lighting: To me, strong lighting works well as it helps tan the rays. Hence, they develope better & much brighter pigment.

My ray are all kept outdoors and they get the full 12 hours of sunlight....SUNrise - SUNset.

Sure hope that helps.
:cheers: :cheers:
 
I buy sand from the local pool supply store. Pool Filter sand.. I was told to look for Silica-Free, but I just asked for the largest, smoothest grain possible.. $10 for a 50lb bag.. I believe it contained Silica, but the bag had very little information about it. I rinsed very thoroughly, removing any fine particle that I could. I also siphoned 2-3 times after adding it to tank.

The rays love to burrow themselves and 'spit' around in search of worms. I also noticed that it seems to help with stress levels when they can burrow comfortably. Whever I transfer a ray into a new tank with that sand, it immediately buries itself for a while. Heres a Clip of my atenna ray sucking through the sand after a ghost shrimp..

Hope that helps some..

Miles
 
I do... most 50g tanks will come with a nice area underneath the stand. Make a sump if at all possible. The extra bio load will help with the tremendous ammonia a ray will put out, along with the convenience of heating it up apposed to the tank where rays will get burned. Kinda stupid for such intelligent beings but hey if whales beach themselves and humans jump out of planes.... whatever.
 
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