Sump pumps

[Kainn]

http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+4587+9849&pcatid=9849

I'm guessing way to small on the pipe size.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205645

 

[Conner]

I was planning on using 1/2" or 3/4" overflow to sump on my 225? This too small for a siphon rate for this big of a tank?

And the "Queit ones" a Brand name? And can i get a link?

http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsU...0/lifegardaquaticsformerlypentairquietone4000

and that size pipe is way too small for a 225g tank. You need to be thinking 1.5" or larger.

 

[Weaksrt]

Ok so if i go with 1.5" siphon pipe, this will provide 1350GPH so ill need a pump that does 1350 or better?

that means ill need a 9000 bc the 6000 will do 1000gph at 5' at best and that mean ill need about 161 bucks for the pump.

Is this correct or am i missing something?

 

[Conner]

You don't necessarily have to get a pump that supplies close to the capacity of the overflow pipes. As long as the pump flow does not exceed that of the overflow pipes, you're fine.

What I would do is pick a pump that provides the turnover rate that you want for your tank, and then size the drain pipes to accommodate the gph rating of the pump.

 

[chemicall]

Weaksrt....

The 1.5" overflows will flow UPTO 1350 GPH...

What this means is You need a pump UPTO 1350gph or UNDER. IF you get higher gph pump than your overflows can handle, this will = water on your floors.

For example I use a Magdrive 9.5 on all 1.5" overflows/plumbing. It works perfect, Only reason I used 1.5" Is because there is no 1.25" pipe available in this town. The other reason for 1.5" pipe was Danner recommends it on their pumps for best flow.

 

[Weaksrt]

Weaksrt....

The 1.5" overflows will flow UPTO 1350 GPH...

What this means is You need a pump UPTO 1350gph or UNDER. IF you get higher gph pump than your overflows can handle, this will = water on your floors.

For example I use a Magdrive 9.5 on all 1.5" overflows/plumbing. It works perfect, Only reason I used 1.5" Is because there is no 1.25" pipe available in this town. The other reason for 1.5" pipe was Danner recommends it on their pumps for best flow.

Also if u get a pump that can not keep up with teh overflow = water on floor right? (Given where the siphon break is)

 

[cdc]

I use a Quiet one 6000 on my 300 its very quiet and the only pump I would use now. I use a two inch overflow and my return pumps into the bottom of my tank not the top.

 

[Burko]

"Also if u get a pump that can not keep up with teh overflow = water on floor right? (Given where the siphon break is) "

No. Think overflow not syphon.

 

[Conner]

Also if u get a pump that can not keep up with teh overflow = water on floor right? (Given where the siphon break is)

No, the overflow will only run as many gph as the pump does.

 

[Weaksrt]

No, the overflow will only run as many gph as the pump does.

Ok so i guess im missing what this overflow box is all about... I wish i could draw you whats in my head...

Is this all i need or is this wrong...

Ok ill try and explain what i had in my head.

It will be 1 1/2" Pipe inside the tank near the top to funnel water down and then up and over the glass. This will provide 1350gph to the sump. Likewise u need a pump to Pump 1350gph back to the tank otherwise the pump will not be able to keep up and u get a water floor inless the Syphon is near the top where the pump "has to pump water back to the tank inorder to continue the overflow.

Now i ask this. Saw the syphon break happens cause the pump cant keep up but still is able to pump water back to the tank the the syphon was broken... (Pump = toast?)

Maybe i need a Video of How to.... Its hard to find a good Video...