Both of those fish come from the Brazil side of South America, so I doubt we will be bringing in any of those anytime soon.. Stayed tuned for a 'Brazil' thread..
SORRY DIED TODAY, CAME HOME FROM WORK And was floating on the bottom . but they are from south am. females have black dot on dorsal fin grow to about 4" and males get bright yellow about 3.5 - 4". cute fish but african cics always messed with it, was about to put it in her own 30g long tank. man in florida has them for $4-5 and he's a member!
how bout a xanthic lates mariae...aka golden perch? if you can find that for me i will tell the world of your awesomeness. (is that a word??? HEHE) i've tried lots of importers to no avail for many a year. good luck and God speed.