johnptc;905100; said:
Good question though some get it in both eyes. Don't know why the left is more prominent. Maybe luck?
taking things in a different direction with drop eyes newest theory.
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Good question though some get it in both eyes. Don't know why the left is more prominent. Maybe luck?
of 3 of mine with one eye DE, 2 have it on the left, one has it onb the right side. Go figure....
I still don't think it's just slamming of the head? Look at the video... why would you need to cut away excess (either) muscle (or fat) from above the eye because it hit it's head??? that just doesn't make sense to me...
AwolAngler;905915; said:
i vote that we overfed them and the excess fat builds up behind the eye....
this coulld be checked on a dead aro with de !!
johnptc;905942; said:i vote that we overfed them and the excess fat builds up behind the eye....
this coulld be checked on a dead aro with de !!
I'm still unsure but i think it has to either be fat or muscle... either way I really don't think it's "natural" and I don't think it's from wackin' they're noggins...
johnptc;905942; said:i vote that we overfed them and the excess fat builds up behind the eye....
this coulld be checked on a dead aro with de !!
do you feed the aros/giga with crustations that are high in salt
im not saying the salt is the main problem but that is what most people feed their aros
with asian aros the main foods are meal worms super worms frogs crickets and other insects
the asian aros we see with drop eye maybe the ones fed on a high salt content food we see more drop eye in silver aros because food with a high salt content if what silvers are fed on most
silvers may not be able to tolorate salt content as much as other aros
just an idear its probably way off
johnptc;904533; said:
johnptc;905100; said:
John looks like delgado's aro pictured in the first post has it in the right eye. The 22" silver I adopted last month has DE in it's right eye, also my 16-17" silver looks as if it is developing DE in it's right eye.
I do know that the head bang was the cause of my silver's DE. It's his right eye. It took about a day for the DE to develop after the impact. He just freaked one day when i opened the top to feed. I think he was sleeping or half out of it and I scared him.
Could be that the muscles that pull the eye at the top to keep the eye level are very fragile and that an impact easily damages those muscles. Since they're fragile, they may never heal. Might explain why the fiberglas or pond or covering the sides of the tank works temporarily with Asian aros too. While the treatment causes them to look up more strengthening the muscles that cause the eye to look up, once that need is removed, the weak top muscles can't counter the effect. MY 2cents.
this would explain how the surgery fixes the problem too. Imagine taking a section of elastic and anchoring it to two pieces of wood with slack in the middle of the elastic. Now cut out a section of the elastic and super glue the two pieces back together. It would heal tight again.
As for the right eye vs left eye, it could be the psychology of the fish. As in right brain vs left brain. If the fish tends to jump with the right side up first, then the right eye gets damaged. If it tends to jump left side up first, then the left eye gets damaged.
Maybe blacks have stronger muscles in their eyes. Maybe all of this is a result of captive breeding and the captive fish's lack of needing to look up causing those muscles to weaken as a genetic trait.
Could be that the muscles that pull the eye at the top to keep the eye level are very fragile and that an impact easily damages those muscles. Since they're fragile, they may never heal. Might explain why the fiberglas or pond or covering the sides of the tank works temporarily with Asian aros too. While the treatment causes them to look up more strengthening the muscles that cause the eye to look up, once that need is removed, the weak top muscles can't counter the effect. MY 2cents.
this would explain how the surgery fixes the problem too. Imagine taking a section of elastic and anchoring it to two pieces of wood with slack in the middle of the elastic. Now cut out a section of the elastic and super glue the two pieces back together. It would heal tight again.
As for the right eye vs left eye, it could be the psychology of the fish. As in right brain vs left brain. If the fish tends to jump with the right side up first, then the right eye gets damaged. If it tends to jump left side up first, then the left eye gets damaged.
Maybe blacks have stronger muscles in their eyes. Maybe all of this is a result of captive breeding and the captive fish's lack of needing to look up causing those muscles to weaken as a genetic trait.
