you need a width of 2x the fish when its an active fish, dont get a ck and maybe do 1 ray... someone on here already told you they have a 4lb kel!! it will be cruel to keep an 18'' cichlid in a 180 with other fish, alone its almost acceptable. 180g is not a big tank, hell my 300 is not a big tank, bass need 450g+ imo.
TANK LARGE ENOUGH FOR ALL THESE FISH?
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Kels may be a smaller species of bass but they get bigger than 18". I've personally seen them at 24" in various locations. 6x2x2 isn't big enough for the bass or Ray in my opinion. 3ft width minimum for rays in my honest opinion.. Just food for thought
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I agree. I wasn't saying they can't get bigger then 18". I merely said that's considered a large kelberi. Like tems. We know they can get 30" + but you don't see them every day at that size. Especially in aquariums. A kelberi would be comfortable for quite along time in that footprint. As I already stated on his other post. Rays require pristine Conditions. With a fully stocked tank that's a much harder battle then finding a big tank.
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Thanks, I'll get the 180, see how she does, and if she gets too large I'll sell it back to the owner (he said he'd take her back if she got too big). Thanks for your advice! And I'm getting an FX6 soon so I don't think water conditions will be too much of a problem, I'll still do weekly ( i usually do it every 4 days) water changes don't worry XD
Fx6 will not be enough for that tank with the stock you want.
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No bass should be kept in a 180g for life. NONE!
A filter rating is just a suggestion. They are inadequete references for "our" monster fish.
Peacock bass need pristine filtration just like rays do. Heck, all fish do for proper health!
MOst bass arent grown to potential because of tank size, lack of wc's, lack of proper diet and just plain ol crappy owners.
Kelberi can get quite large!
This guy is almost making my 450g look small already.
Pushing 18" and isnt even 3 years old. Still growing like a weed.
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A filter rating is just a suggestion. They are inadequete references for "our" monster fish.
Peacock bass need pristine filtration just like rays do. Heck, all fish do for proper health!
MOst bass arent grown to potential because of tank size, lack of wc's, lack of proper diet and just plain ol crappy owners.
Kelberi can get quite large!
This guy is almost making my 450g look small already.
Pushing 18" and isnt even 3 years old. Still growing like a weed.
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Op nothing wrong with asking questions, but keep them short and to the point and you should get more response.
Don't start all your thread titles with capitals and mark them urgent or help, turns people off.
Try not to ask too many subjective or controversial questions cuz you'll get varied opinions and when a subject has been beat to death people don't want to answer, again.
Keep them a bit shorter, and don't aim for "can I get by with" bare minimum stuff, aim for overkill, like keeping 3 bass in a 450, or 2 fish total in your 180. I know this hobby is a hole encased in glass we throw money into, but to be honest if you want success you have to settle for less or find a way to make more out of what you got.
Keep up the good work, it is evident you want a good home for your wet pets. Sometimes if you Google something and get 2 different groups of people arguing opposite, you just have to try it and see what happens and be prepared to adapt. Adapt, improvise, and overcome is my life motto. People may try to put it in your head not to put a kelberi in a 180, but it will take a lot of time for it to outgrow it, and by that time you can save money and build a pond, or sell the kelberi, or you may get bored in general, or your tank may bust and ruin your entire bedroom and kill it. Go slow man, slowly, put the kelberi and the Oscar in there, see how they do and how you manage the bio, then try adding a small knife. Pick out what you want most cuz unfortunately we can't have everything as much as you try, until you're ceo of your own company anyway.
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Don't start all your thread titles with capitals and mark them urgent or help, turns people off.
Try not to ask too many subjective or controversial questions cuz you'll get varied opinions and when a subject has been beat to death people don't want to answer, again.
Keep them a bit shorter, and don't aim for "can I get by with" bare minimum stuff, aim for overkill, like keeping 3 bass in a 450, or 2 fish total in your 180. I know this hobby is a hole encased in glass we throw money into, but to be honest if you want success you have to settle for less or find a way to make more out of what you got.
Keep up the good work, it is evident you want a good home for your wet pets. Sometimes if you Google something and get 2 different groups of people arguing opposite, you just have to try it and see what happens and be prepared to adapt. Adapt, improvise, and overcome is my life motto. People may try to put it in your head not to put a kelberi in a 180, but it will take a lot of time for it to outgrow it, and by that time you can save money and build a pond, or sell the kelberi, or you may get bored in general, or your tank may bust and ruin your entire bedroom and kill it. Go slow man, slowly, put the kelberi and the Oscar in there, see how they do and how you manage the bio, then try adding a small knife. Pick out what you want most cuz unfortunately we can't have everything as much as you try, until you're ceo of your own company anyway.
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Oh man, this guy reminds me a lot of myself when I was a kid.
You just needs some hands on experience. I feel like even if we answered all of your questions you would still run into issues or have your way regardless. And that's not a bad thing. If you want to put that stock in a 180, see what happens, learn from it.
There are many years worth of invaluable experiences, ID requests, development pictures and so much more on this board. How you utilize this information is up to you, but keep in mind people may get irritated after a few similar or common questions that a search could resolve.
Is the Cichla forum coming back from the dead? What's with this heated argument all of a sudden, haha.
You just needs some hands on experience. I feel like even if we answered all of your questions you would still run into issues or have your way regardless. And that's not a bad thing. If you want to put that stock in a 180, see what happens, learn from it.
There are many years worth of invaluable experiences, ID requests, development pictures and so much more on this board. How you utilize this information is up to you, but keep in mind people may get irritated after a few similar or common questions that a search could resolve.
Is the Cichla forum coming back from the dead? What's with this heated argument all of a sudden, haha.
Listen to this man. Only thing I want to add is there is nothing wrong with questioning responses. I would say you arent doing enough diligence if you listen to the first person that posts. If I have a serious question, like can I mix 2 kinds of meds, i wont take the first answer. If two well experienced keepers agree good enough for me, if 3 people I don't know agree that's go enough for me, but what happens when 3 random people agree but one educated poster doesn't agree? Tell me everyone hasn't been there.
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