Tank Size for Severum and Oscar?

[fishie111]

Wow! I didn't know that this would provoke such a debate!

Right now I have a 75G standard tank and a 46G bowfront tank that I would like to stock.

I have the following cichlids: 1 juvenile gold severum, 1 extremely shy juvenile blue acara and 1 juvenile angelfish. All of these are about 1.5 inches at the moment.

I also have 8 boesemani rainbowfish.

These two tanks will be the only large tanks that I will be able to have for awhile- possibly several years- as I live in a condo and am limited on wall space. The next largest empty tank that I have is a 20H.

I'd love an oscar and the store near me has some really nice commons that are about 2 inches at most. They also have a nice trio of keyholes.

I'm trying to figure out whether I have enough space to acquire either the oscar, the keyholes or both.

I was trying to see if I could put the oscar and severum together in the 75G and then the angel and blue acara in the 46G (in this scenario, I wouldn't get the keyholes).

Would the oscar and acara in the 75G be a better idea? Except that would leave the sev in the 46G with the angel, which also isn't ideal. 46 for the oscar alone, anyone, it is wider than a 55?

I'm open to other suggestions, or perhaps I just don't have room for an oscar right now, which is disappointing, but perhaps I just have to accept it.

 

[sour_girl]

Don't put the Oscar in the 45.. try the Oscar and Sev in the 75. Most likely it will be fine.. if not.. you will have to trade in one of them.

 

[FSM]

Beause the little card at Petsmart/Petco says they need at least a 30 gallon tank.

my favorite is the sign for the pacu
max size: 24 inches
tank size: 30 gallons

how long is a 30 gallon?

 

[Eläköön]

put them in the 75. they will last in there for a year or more providing you dont get overly territorial individuals. if you feel its crowded and unfair you could maybe look at rearanging furniture in your house or something to allow a slightly bigger footprint?

 

[packer43064]

this threads turning rally debatial now!

the person on the last page who agreed with what i said, and had a GT in a 29gal
your exactly the type of person that makes up an average.
we get fish that may outgrow our tank, but we have the decency to upgrade when the need be. i think if people will upgrade don't hassel them. i kept a florida gar in a 4' tank for a few months just cause it was a fascinating (and small then) creature and when it was starting to get bigger the lfs took it back.
and im not sure why my part of the post about my mayan havent came back up but it was a 12" fish in a 80gal which is 18" wide and it just laid there bored most of the day. it had too much room and it was just a lazy fish. it looked empty

Yeah for real. Hell I was told the GT was a Blue Acara for starters. Once I found out it was a GT that could attain 10 inches, I wasn't like aww hell well I guess I will take it back. I kept it and when it got too big for the tank I upgraded to the 56. He loves his new tank with his little Rotkeil Sev friend. People reccomend a 75 for 1 GT. That's just too big, he would be boring as hell for starters, probaly wouldn't be as active as he is now. There's nothing wrong with space but there's no need to have 1 Oscar and 1 Severum in a 125. Or a 220 or whatever some people are suggesting.

 

[sg1]

put them in the 75. they will last in there for a year or more providing you dont get overly territorial individuals. if you feel its crowded and unfair you could maybe look at rearanging furniture in your house or something to allow a slightly bigger footprint?

TC, they will last far longer than just a year, they can infact live out their entire lives more than happy in a 75G tank. We are talking an Oscar and a Sev here people not a Pacu and a Dovi.

 

[shamrock]

One thing that bothers me though is-Why do people get the fish then the tank-My philosphy is get the tank then the fish-cause from til the fish outgrows it's tank a lot of things can happen.

 

[Eläköön]

TC, they will last far longer than just a year, they can infact live out their entire lives more than happy in a 75G tank. We are talking an Oscar and a Sev here people not a Pacu and a Dovi.

oh i agree with you! just need to be careful what you say here or you will get criticised. so i said a year
at least this thread isnt completely consisting of people saying we need huge tanks.

lets think of it like this.

humans can live in small flats happily
or huge mansions
we dont require open spaces to run, just things to keep us ocupied.

as long as its not TOO small to move than all is good.
anyone see a link here...

 

[jk41589]

oh i agree with you! just need to be careful what you say here or you will get criticised. so i said a year
at least this thread isnt completely consisting of people saying we need huge tanks.

lets think of it like this.

humans can live in small flats happily
or huge mansions
we dont require open spaces to run, just things to keep us ocupied.

as long as its not TOO small to move than all is good.
anyone see a link here...

Thats exactly the point. Fish can live propelry and happy in a tank that is just fair in size. But they will of course live happier in a larger, it's not a necessity. We humans keep putting ourselves in the creatures shoes. It is our nature to let other beings feel the freedom we feel.

There are some exceptions though, when the fish grows larger than the expected size(freakish size), which is extremely rare.

cheers,
jk