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nonstophoops;4751406; said:It most likely isn't a time of year thing, but something else.
It could be the age of the fish and as it grows it will mature into the coloration you normally see.
It is possible it just is a variation of color based on where it was collected. There could also be some aggression between tank mates and the pink tail is in its "scared and non-threatening coloration."
Or possibly the fish is unhealthy in some way.
It may be none of these and be because the fish is very new to the tank and is recovering from the transportation.
I don't want to sound redundant as your tank seems to be doing pretty well but monitor your fish very closely. That is a lot of fish and personality within a pretty small space and issues could start to arise at any time.
As far as the algae goes, I would be scraping as much as you can as frequently as possible. The algae will grow even if you scrape your entire tank as it is a product of all the nutrients the fish are producing as waste and you are feeding. The tap water may be contributing some as well depending on quality.
You seem to be doing well so I wouldn't change much, just try to optimize what you have to keep your fish as healthy as possible.
tha pinktail was thin when i got it. it has been putting on some weight in the small time i have had it. it is the more agressive fish in the tank. i hope as it plumps out and matures it changes to pink. i still like it as it is, but it would be cool to have it pink.
i may scrape more algea off then normal, i just didn't want to get a mini cycle as i know i should have a larger filtration system to feel more comfertable. i will be changing my 120gal(4'x2'x2') over into salt for this 55gal to be upgraded in the neer future. i planned on haveing it as th 'final' tank for my 55gal salt experiment. just need to get the funds going on it and the fish in it into my 180gal. as it is drilled, i have the overflows, built the stand so i can have a 55gal sump(my first sump setup ever). i just have to move the fish out of my sump tank and make it into a sump. i'll get a pic of it and put it up so you can see the setup before then after i make the transfure
the main thing i was looking at was the fact that in many cases if you take agressive fish and put them in a smaller/closer setup you will have less agresstion. if you take the same fish, reduce the stock or give them more personal space the agresstion will increase. i have noticed the same thing with all the african cichlids i have had over the years.
I would also like to warn you that at some point you could wind up with 1 triggerfish and no others in that tank.
I know a very ornery pink-tailed trigger who is picky about who can stay in his 500 gallon. (They get more like 16 inches.) You may need to get a new tank soon.
Also, clown triggers get about 20 inches....if you end up getting one.
I know a very ornery pink-tailed trigger who is picky about who can stay in his 500 gallon. (They get more like 16 inches.) You may need to get a new tank soon.
Also, clown triggers get about 20 inches....if you end up getting one.
Pomatomus;4751488; said:I would also like to warn you that at some point you could wind up with 1 triggerfish and no others in that tank.
I know a very ornery pink-tailed trigger who is picky about who can stay in his 500 gallon. (They get more like 16 inches.) You may need to get a new tank soon.
Also, clown triggers get about 20 inches....if you end up getting one.
i have a 120gal like i just posted above to move them into after some time. i am off work all week so i am watching them and my wife doesn't work so if she sees any real problems i can adress them. every were i have read they got to 14", but i'll beleve you on the 'max size'. i know that clowns get that big, and i will be getting one. they grow relitively slow so 'soon' is a relitive term. the 120 will be up and running in like a month or so. i will also go bigger in the long run if needed thats why i put 'final' in quotes.
sbuse;4751620; said:i have a 120gal like i just posted above to move them into after some time. i am off work all week so i am watching them and my wife doesn't work so if she sees any real problems i can adress them. every were i have read they got to 14", but i'll beleve you on the 'max size'. i know that clowns get that big, and i will be getting one. they grow relitively slow so 'soon' is a relitive term. the 120 will be up and running in like a month or so. i will also go bigger in the long run if needed thats why i put 'final' in quotes.
It is true that if you cram aggressive fish together with no territories(the key there) that they will be less aggressive in most cases. This is a temporary concept, the fish cannot live happily with no territories and places they feel comfortable. Long term the fish will go after each other in small tanks whether there are places to claim as territory or not unless there is enough territory for all of them(in aquariums there won't be).
I have to agree Pomatomus on this, that long term you most likely will see problems. However, being that you put them all together small it may work out ok.
If you add a Clown Trigger however, I will say that long term he will be the only fish in your tank. They are one of the meanest(if not meanest) fish anyone can put in their aquarium, not just towards Triggers either. The Clown WILL kill all the other fish in a 120 as it grows.
I would not recommend getting one unless you are going to house it in a species specific tank. They truely are beautiful fish, it is too bad they are little(or big) devils.
nonstophoops;4751670; said:It is true that if you cram aggressive fish together with no territories(the key there) that they will be less aggressive in most cases. This is a temporary concept, the fish cannot live happily with no territories and places they feel comfortable. Long term the fish will go after each other in small tanks whether there are places to claim as territory or not unless there is enough territory for all of them(in aquariums there won't be).
I have to agree Pomatomus on this, that long term you most likely will see problems. However, being that you put them all together small it may work out ok.
If you add a Clown Trigger however, I will say that long term he will be the only fish in your tank. They are one of the meanest(if not meanest) fish anyone can put in their aquarium, not just towards Triggers either. The Clown WILL kill all the other fish in a 120 as it grows.
I would not recommend getting one unless you are going to house it in a species specific tank. They truely are beautiful fish, it is too bad they are little(or big) devils.
i wasn't saying that this smaller tank was a long term thing. my idea was that if they were forced together with nothing to fight over, although there is enough caves to hide each one in, when they get their own territory they will get along better. they are small so i am hoping that it will work. i am keeping them well fed and i am watching them constantly. my tanks are in the livingroom so even if i am watching a movie i can see them if there is any fighting.
as for the clowns i have herd they are hit or miss. i was under the impresstion that the ungilated is the meanest sob. or have i been miss informed?
i tend to treat every fish as an individual some will work others wont. just have to find the one that wont before it goes on a killing spree. i am relitivly new to salt, but i have read just about everything i can find on all the fish i own or intend on getting. just as i do with freshwater witch i have been doing for the last 18 years alone and 2 more years with help from my parents.
behavor update
no fights or flares and they all swim together. the blue jaw definatly likes to use the whole tank. were as the others like to play in the powerhead for the most part.
no fights or flares and they all swim together. the blue jaw definatly likes to use the whole tank. were as the others like to play in the powerhead for the most part.
Awsome glad to hear they're doing well.
Side note, How long did it take your niger to become comfortable in your tank? Mine seems to hide all day minus feeding time. Granted i've only had it in the tank for 3 days now.
Side note, How long did it take your niger to become comfortable in your tank? Mine seems to hide all day minus feeding time. Granted i've only had it in the tank for 3 days now.
