THE GEOPHAGUS THREAD

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Savier808

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Please post any helpful advice/ basic info!


I'm looking to get some geophagus to help sift the sand in my new tank and was wondering...

1. Do all Geophagus sift sand???

2. What is the smallest number I can happily keep together???

3. Can you keep one each of say, four different species???
 
1. Yes

2. I'd say 4-5. I just bumped up my gymnogeophagus labiatus school from 3 to 5 and they are so much more interesting to watch.

3. I wouldnt recommend it but you probably could but it would depend on the species as well. What species are you thinking of getting? Also what size tank?

Btw that is a G. altifrons
 
I just got a 60gal yesterday!

I'm not sure what species to get yet...
I've been looking at the more common ones online because they'll be easier for me to find in the shops here.

Was looking at:
Geophagus surinamensis "Redstriped Eartheater"
Geophagus brasiliensis "Pearl Eartheater" - Juvenile
Geophagus surinamensis "Redstriped Eartheater"
Geophagus steindachneri "Redhump Eartheater"
Geophagus sp. "Tapajos Orange Head"
Gymnogeophagus balzanii "Argentine Humphead"

I'm looking for just mildly agressive geos to help clean the substrate in my tank (gonna put three 2" bichirs in)! I don't want them to be overly expensive or difficult to find, but would love some that and have the sift a lot of sandand have the rainbow scales!

Any suggestions?

Also, are the gymnos smaller, less agressive? What are their characteristics compared to the other geos?
 
The jurupari they show in the pics are not jurupari - they are leucostica. Still same attitude, note the speckling on the cheeks and face.
 
They're not going to "clean the substrate"

If you feed your bichirs sinking pellets they aren't going to make a difference, but they are great fish anyway.
 
All eartheater species will sift through the sand, it's how they maintain their food most of the time. They will eat pellets floating down, but most of the time sift.

I had a Geophagus Abalios for a couple years, as a single eartheater species. He was fine, and could hold his ground in my ca/sa cichlid community. After learning more about these species, and the other tankmates getting bigger/more aggressive, I decided to start an eartheater tank. Right now I have him in ith a Heckelii, and a Leucosticta, and they seem to be doing fine together. All 3 kinda push eachother around from time to time, but no aggression issues really. Their also housed with a huge Chocolate cichlid, with no problems there either.

Also make sure to go with a finer substrate, instead of the normal gravel you would buy. Fine gravel, and sand, are easier for them to sift through, and doesn't get caught in their mouths like gravel can.

As far as the Surinamensis - mostly all the species you see labeled like this are not going to be a "true" Surinamensis, as they are pretty hard to obtain. I purchased my Abalios as a Suri, and after maturing, have noticed that me, along with a bunch of other members on this site, have gotten a different species just labeled as a Surinamensis for easy reference.

And yes your picture posted is of a Geophagus Altifrons, one of the larger growing Geo species.
 
For a 60g I would recommend getting gymnogeos over geos since most geos will out grow a 60g. Are you planning to upgrade or is this it? Most gymnogeos get to 4-5".

My one concern is the bichirs deciding they are dinner, what type are you getting? Also most gymnogeo will need a cool down period for 2-3 months of the year. If you are still interested them pet kingdom is the only store in SD with them, otherwise you'll have to order online.

Btw 99% of geos listed as surinamensis are actually altifrons or abalios.
 
abarilot;3419998; said:
For a 60g I would recommend getting gymnogeos over geos since most geos will out grow a 60g. Are you planning to upgrade or is this it?

My one concern is the bichirs deciding they are dinner, what type are you getting? If you are still interested them pet kingdom is the only store in SD with them.

Btw 99% of geos listed as surinamensis are actually altifrons or abalios.

I'm gonna get an albino sen and a delhezi so they should get to about 9-10" from what I've researched. Apparently the tankmates must be bigger than the bichirs mouth and then its okay, so the gymnogeos might be too small...

Any geos in the 7-8" range as adults?

I talked to a guy at petkingdom and he told me a geo wouldn't clean the substrate, but might help a little... that's basically what I'm looking for.
Is this true?

Is it possible to keep 1-3 geos with a jack dempsey?
 
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