The-ocean-is-broken

[Squirtle919]

Best solution is to just kill EVERY homo sapien, Humans have little to no regard for any life but there own its quite sad but I see it daily, when it gets to late then everyone starts to care, just look at history.

Expecting a government to do something where they wont make a killing of a profit for themselves is also a dream. Humans are too greedy sadly and don't notice half of whats going on.

 

[ehh]

If humanity took a short break from eating meats the planet would benefit so much.

But it is in human nature to destroy. We happily do it to each other. What chance do "lesser" life forms have?


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[bro]

One could make a case for the fact many of us aquarium hobbiest are part of the problem...

How many of us (myself included) are proud of our prized wild caught fish in our tanks?

I admit that I have paid big bucks for w/c fish, instead of getting less expensive tank bred fish of the same type....

 

[Squirtle919]

One could make a case for the fact many of us aquarium hobbiest are part of the problem...

How many of us (myself included) are proud of our prized wild caught fish in our tanks?

I admit that I have paid big bucks for w/c fish, instead of getting less expensive tank bred fish of the same type....

that point could be countered by the fact most WC fish are purchased to breed so in the long term we give back, bit like the coral market thats proven to work.

I rarely see someone buying a WC fish just for the heck of having a WC, of course i don't have vision every where but =P

 

[bro]

that point could be countered by the fact most WC fish are purchased to breed so in the long term we give back, bit like the coral market thats proven to work.

I rarely see someone buying a WC fish just for the heck of having a WC, of course i don't have vision every where but =P

I see your point, but also hope you see mine.

I wonder if the "because most of us breed our w/c fish" defense is viewed the same way by non aquarium people? I honestly don't know....

When I posed that defense to my wife (who is not into aquariums like me)' and her response quickly was "so why can't you breed the tank raised fish descended from already collected w/c fish, instead of collecting more w/c fish to breed?

I tried to answer with genetics and quality issues, but was not very convincing...

 

[Squirtle919]

Yes I see your point too.

because you want to keep variation within the species, if we take parents X and Y and just work of these we dont get variation. Variation is very important in all forms of life. Look at what happened in Ireland many years ago due to potatoes all having the same genetic build up one disease was able to cause a lot of damage, same with cloning animals and artificial insemination. The alleles within the species need to be mixed up to create variation otherwise many issues can come into play, these wont occur for many years but theres always the risk down the road. ^ summed up very fast sleepy.

Also look at endler guppies without hobbyists they would no longer be around, as per everything in lifes theres Cons and Pros to everything but I would say WC fish is a very small factor, Saltwater maybe a bigger issue seeing as most of the fish are WC which can account for a large sum of fish yearly.

Its a complicated topic non the less. I believe as long as humans interfere with something, the product will just worsen over time, theres very few things we improve else its for our selfs sadly in general.

 

[krichardson]

One could make a case for the fact many of us aquarium hobbiest are part of the problem...

How many of us (myself included) are proud of our prized wild caught fish in our tanks?

I admit that I have paid big bucks for w/c fish, instead of getting less expensive tank bred fish of the same type....

The fish that we keep as hobbyists has very little to do with catching and killing every single fish in the oceans for food...The wild caught fish that wind up in our aquariums barely put a dent in their populations compared to what is eaten in those areas.Just take a look at some of the fish markets down in South America and the rows upon upon rows of tables piled with fresh caught fish...

 

[Dan F]

Could you, please, elaborate, Shipmonkey?

I just read an article where they mention that it takes 2.8 pounds of wild-caught fish to raise one pound of farmed salmon. It also said that salmon farming operations in Norway produce nitrates equivalent to sewage from a city of three million people. Add in huge amounts of antibiotics, environmental destruction, and the risks involved with genetically-modified organisms and it becomes pretty clear that fish-farming is not good for the environment.

The farming of shrimp/prawns is even worse, as it is causing the widespread destruction of mangroves and estuarine habitats all over the tropics, especially South America and Asia.

 

[krichardson]

With farming being as destructive to the environment as it is and mega fishing as bad as it,is with no let up in sight,then it looks like there is no solution to the situation at hand.

 

[David R]

With farming being as destructive to the environment as it is and mega fishing as bad as it,is with no let up in sight,then it looks like there is no solution to the situation at hand.

aside from the blindingly-obvious-yet-incomprehensible-to-most; reduce consumption...