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[dogofwar]

sp. "Jenarro Hererra" means that it's undescribed. Is that the collection location?

This is yet another group of fish (diadema) that needs further scientific description.

The problem is that - depending on who does the work and their predilection to lumping or splitting - very similar fish from adjacent rivers / river systems could be geographic varients of the same species...or entirely different species...or fish from one watershed could be a species and fish from the other watershed another. Collection location is the best descriptor, in other words.

Autraloheros are undergoing just such description...but I'll continue to use collection location as the way to describe the fish and their offspring (vs. trying to fit them into a "species").

 

[thatcichlidguy]

Well this as good as it gets

, what'ya think?

 

[darth pike]

Yes, it's a location in Peru. When Kullander restricted Aequidens he broke this species away from metae. So of course, it is highly similiar to metae, which is highly similiar to diadema.

Diadema has a spot instead of a line behind the eye, and no blue or green coloration on the face. "Jenarro Hererra" has a partial streak, orange ventrals, green facial coloration, and the midlaterial blotch goes up into the dorsal fin. Metae has a full streak behind the eye, and blue facial coloration. Both metae and diadema, the midlateral blotch stops at the dorsal, not overlapping like "Jenarro Hererra."

That said, it's still not easy seeing the fish. Clinical descriptions sometimes are hard to carry over. Aequidens needs just as much work as the blue acara group ('Aequidens') and Bujurquina. Laetacara can use a touch of work too!

 

[darth pike]

I believe yours to be "Jenarro Hererra" as I can see the midlateral blotch going into the dorsal fin. It also has the 3/4 streak behind the eye, green facial coloration, and the orange ventrals.

But then you already knew what I'd say from another place!!

 

[ewok]

hehe i like this thread, probably more so because i am moving away from CA to SA and smaller to medium sized cichlids are much more manageable than 12" brutes...

just out of curiosity, are there biologists or ichthyologists commenting on this thread? i note there is a wealth of knowledge

 

[darth pike]

Oh, sadly this is the only pic I have of mine acaras ... Laetacara dorsigera. They were still settling in when I borrowed the camera, so rather washed out.

 

[darth pike]

just out of curiosity, are there biologists or ichthyologists commenting on this thread? i note there is a wealth of knowledge

Not here at least. But I love the scientific side of the hobby and try to read the journals and holotypes and such when ever I can find them. When younger I did want to be a marine biologist, so I guess that science side just carried over.

 

[thatcichlidguy]

I believe yours to be "Jenarro Hererra" as I can see the midlateral blotch going into the dorsal fin. It also has the 3/4 streak behind the eye, green facial coloration, and the orange ventrals.

But then you already knew what I'd say from another place!!

He he , thought that was you. I just see so many similarities between many of the species (and variants there of) that I start questioning IDs of my fish sometimes. Especially this particular little group. Once again , thanks for the help.

 

[dogofwar]

Not a fish scientist, just a dork

If we're throwing in curviceps...I have a wild male of those. I got a group of 4 wild ones and they came in with some really bad who knows what....only the strongest survived!

 

[thatcichlidguy]

Just picked up a WC Gold Saum ! Pic to follow once he settles in.