The Rapps Orino thread!!!

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dvsgp6;3140223; said:
one of my orino's also came with some ich, all i did was raise the temp and this morning gone, no more ich and feeding on bloodworms
Dang! My temp is 89 still with ich and they dont even look at bloodworms. And they barely take guppies
 
troutking;3140242;3140242 said:
Dang! My temp is 89 still with ich and they dont even look at bloodworms. And they barely take guppies
damn 89 seems like a little too warm!
 
my temps at 86 and added some salt.
the orinos are breathing insanely fast.
even with a grip of air in the tank.
anybody else?
 
I sincerely hope everyone's fish are doing better by the hour.

I appreciate all the folks who keep a positive attitude and write posts that are actually helpful to fellow Cichla keepers.

It's disappointing to read a couple folks' posts who've so quickly become antagonists.
No harm has been done to them.
Those few members sound more dramatic than the Cat in the Hat for meowing out loud.
No need to buy into their propagandism by chiming along like a peanut gallery.
That's not what this site is about.
Please think twice about what you type before posting publically.

As I mentioned earlier, I have absolutely no need to sell a fish that has visible ich.
Take a look at the festae posted on my stock list. They were held back a week because they arrived too rough for my preference to ship to any customer. They were delayed in transit and overpacked, so here they still are.


As a precaution, I treated my Cichla stock with Jungle Ick Guard at 50% of recommended dose. This med does not contain formalin or malachite green. I've had good success over the years with using it on sensitive fish like baby Cichla.

They still remain totally uneffected by any signs of ich.
Their appetites are getting completely out of hand!

Here are photos that I snapped this afternoon of the same fish in the same 150 gal tank from which I packed all the orino orders last week.

Adding a little perspective to the orino stock I currently have on hand, the fish pictured below are the largest sized juveniles that my exporter's fisherman collected for me.
I still have well over 1000 pieces of 1"+ sized orinos in my tanks that I prefer not to market yet. These fish are also doing exceedingly well - eating and growing like you would expect of baby Cichla.
Some of you commented on how you thought the 1.5-2" sized guys were small. Imagine a fish less than one 1/2 the length and girth of those guys!
With a metabolism not unlike that of a hummingbird, I choose to keep all these little guys here; continuing to feed the bottomless pit of Cichla masses in those tanks and changing more water than Lake Superior holds!

Those of you who are offering them feeder guppies really don't need to to that. It's so risky to the health of your fish - particularly little Cichla.
They have been eating finely crumbled freeze dried krill, pureed raw shrimp, frozen bloodworms (as you can well see below!), and even sinking crumbles of aquaculture grade fin fish feed that almost all my juvenile cichlids eat daily.

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So should i stop feeding them guppies and wait till they are hungry to feed them bloodworms. Should i add meds now? Heres some horrible pics of my orinos:

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There are always ich in CYST form in everyone's water system. During transportation, low temperature activates the cyst and ich become free swimming. The worst part is you can not kill ich while they are already attached to fish. Medications you buy from LFS can only kill free swimming stage of ich. Raising water temperature will shorten parasitic stage of ich to about 72hrs and released from fish. With warm water and salt, free swimming ich can NOT re attach back to your fish. Using medication too early will only deplete oxygen in water, weaken your fish, and mess up your biological filtration, it will NOT kill whose visible white spots on fish. The best time to use medication should be about 3-4 days after you receive your fish. After that time they should be acclimated, fed few times already, and all ich have detached from your fish and become free swimming stage. TIME TO KILL THEM ALL.
 
I had 1 DOA but was given an extra one in the bag so Im happy with my order... I do have one that has a pretty bad case of ich (tail has a lot of Ich:cry:) and I am doing 30% daily H2o changes and Salt. Not to mention they are in a 50gl with a RenaX3 and a 25 watt UV all for them:naughty:. The one that has lots of Ich has not ate since I picked him up but Ill keep my head high and hope he eats next time I feed them.

Hope everyone gets their Ich under control:D
 
West1;3141416; said:
I had 1 DOA but was given an extra one in the bag so Im happy with my order... I do have one that has a pretty bad case of ich (tail has a lot of Ich:cry:) and I am doing 30% daily H2o changes and Salt. Not to mention they are in a 50gl with a RenaX3 and a 25 watt UV all for them:naughty:. The one that has lots of Ich has not ate since I picked him up but Ill keep my head high and hope he eats next time I feed them.

Hope everyone gets their Ich under control:D
What, an extra! Why didnt i get an extra. j/k:) Hope that one pulls through
 
i hope everyones orinos come through i myself cant wait to get my hands on some
should be getting 10 in a couple of days
 
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