The real Falkneri

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So if I read correctly according to the article that Anders posted then, P. Menchacai is just a junior synonym of P. Falkneri, along with P. Castexi.
 
ShadowStryder said:
So if I read correctly according to the article that Anders posted then, P. Menchacai is just a junior synonym of P. Falkneri, along with P. Castexi.
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Correct.

Tiger rays have been named P. tigrina (for those to confuse the two).

Fitting name!
 
DB junkie said:
There's NO Falk in this thread.

This is Fishdog's lady Jag at 7-8 inches. These pics are several years old.

People seem to think it's hard to differentiate the 2. It's not. One simple comparison of the eyes and it's obvious. There's several differences, disk shape, base color, eye's and how uniform the dots are all seem to be very different between the species, not to mention locale. I inquired about this ray being a Falk when I bought it and was informed that where the 2 species come from is so far apart that it would be impossible. This was reconfirmed by the seller of the Falks. I was told the Falks make a really long journey and a majority of the price they command has to do with transportation.

I'm not some arm chair expert that has studied pics of OTHER PEOPLES rays. I raised what I consider to be one of the best looking Jags I've ever seen from a juvy to an adult. I'm not a scientist or a biologist, but by gum, I gots me a pair of eyes that work sub par and the differences are still very noticeable.

Are they 2 different species? Are BDs and Leos 2 different species? Who really knows or cares? We know they look different depending on where they come from, so it's safe to say they are locale variants to say the least.

I really thought about raising a Jag with the Falks but after getting the Falks here and seeing them, I see no reason to try to prove a point to people that have already formed thier narrowminded opinions. I sent pics to Fishdog after I got the Falks and he seemed to think there was pretty obvious differences too, so until someone can prove otherwise by obtaining thier own I'm perfectly content with the observations.

There's very little info available on Falks. That's half the reason they appeal to me so much. I miss my old Jag like crazy, I've always said that these rays posses the best personality of ANY ray I've ever had, I had high hopes for the Falks to posses the same personality, and I can happily say they do posses that personality. VERY active, busy rays, very tough, and aggressive eaters once established.
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http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?387573-I-D-)&highlight=Falkneri :) falkneri expert???
 
andersp90 said:
Correct.

Tiger rays have been named P. tigrina (for those to confuse the two).

Fitting name!
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Anders are you getting your data from the aqua log book? That book is very incorrect . Falkneri are not tigrina or tigers.falks come from parana river in Argentina and its tribs. I maybe misunderstanding something you've said ,not trying to start and argument with you
 
calgaryflames said:
It's funny you can all of the sudden differentiate falks from jags but a year ago you couldn't differentiate a brown ray from brazil from a yellow or orange heavy spotted ray from Argentina lol. Sorry to pick at this but clearly your the one taking the first shots.weve all made mistakes some are just to egotistical to realize and admit them
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I'm no expert. I know from your PMs that nobody knows squat about these things including the guy that's been dealing them. ;) I don't know anything about these rays other then what I've seen by raising them and watching them interact with others. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, I am always wrong about things. How do you know you're right unless you've been wrong? lol

I can't ID black rays either. :(

I'm not claiming to know anymore then anybody else, just sharing a few pics. :)
 
theirs also documented world record falkneri that have been caught on rod and reel 22 lbs falk was caught, usualy the biggest fish are not caught by rod but net or other means. 22lbs is just the recorded world record. they are reconized by governments ,documented offical angling records and credible people who have gone and documented with scientific evidnece theyt are not castexti rays. im not to sure on how far south castexti rays are distributed i would love to know ,but i do know falkneri are found in very far southern reaches of parana river system.
 
Not sure..... I can't ID rays, we've already been over that.

Grow em up and figure it out. ;)

No matter if they're Jag, Pineapple, Castexi, or Falkneri they're ALL Falkneri now aren't they????
 
I don't know about I"ding these fish at all but i am going to give it a shot;)So i can get some answers!!Top and bottom are some type of peruvian ray ????? two middle pics are falks ????
 
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