Thinking of building a setup for a boa or python

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snakeguy101;3516981; said:
now, A question for you: are you planning on having 2 ponds (one for each division) or just one that stretches into both under the divider or do you have other plans for the water feature?
It might be cool to construct a water fall, it would aid in the humidity too. just some thoughts.

I'm not sure yet. The pond I'm looking at is 9gal. 26" wide (its a circle) and I think 9" deep. I ran into a problem with the heat mats i was going to use. They get WAY to hot. Basically I was going to have the 3/8" plywood, heat mat, then the vinyl pond liner. I believe the one I looked at today was a Fluker(sp?) 11"x11." It runs at 100 degrees constantly. Does anyone else see a problem with that or am I just freaking out over nothing? I know I'm going to need both and I don't want to have to use lights to heat the floor of the viv at night.
 
RedDevilDon2005;3518649; said:
I'm not sure yet. The pond I'm looking at is 9gal. 26" wide (its a circle) and I think 9" deep. I ran into a problem with the heat mats i was going to use. They get WAY to hot. Basically I was going to have the 3/8" plywood, heat mat, then the vinyl pond liner. I believe the one I looked at today was a Fluker(sp?) 11"x11." It runs at 100 degrees constantly. Does anyone else see a problem with that or am I just freaking out over nothing? I know I'm going to need both and I don't want to have to use lights to heat the floor of the viv at night.


all heat mats get about that hot, keep in mind that they will lose their intensity through the vinyll and the snakes are not going to be sitting on this all day, just for basking if they get cool. also, if they only reach 100*F then i am %100 that the pond liner will not melt.
 
snakeguy101;3516870; said:
heat rocks are still no good, I am actually shocked that they are still made because they cause burns, the wires are hazardous. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE THESE.

If you build your own hot rocks then they should be fine, plus it would be on a timer and thermastate. Just so we're clear here I have had heat tape leave burn makings on plywood and plastic cages. If you don't ventilate your heat tape your asking for trouble!

RedDevilDon2005;3516918; said:
Time for some technical questions now that my mind is made up with the snake.

Ventalation- How many holes will i need? I'm going to run a timed setup for lights and floor heat.

Dude I don't know your house or apartment or area, so you will need to figure this out on your own. Best way to start is to drill holes roughtly 1/4 inch holes lets say in a circular pattern 7, six on the outside one in the middle, in a square pattern 9 holes, three rows of three 1/4inch holes. You should also add slip or slide covers to these ventilation sites, so that you can close them off if you need too.

Moisture- Do you guys recommend an auto mist system for humidity? Or will the pond be fine for that? Also should i keep the pond heated at all times?

NO!!!, misting system required, as a matter of fact when I used to raise and breed carpets I never kept most of them above 35%~40% humdity and the only time I sprayed them was when there eyes turned opaque.

I would strongly recommend that you ask and follow the advise of whom ever you purchase your snakes from, unless your planning on buying newly hatched hatchlings. most breeders won't sell you newly hatched snakes, so go with whatever they have been doing for them. Don't get adventurous until you have alittle experience with them.

Floor Heater- Everything is going to sit on a piece of 3/8" plywood. I think I'm going to glue down a piece of vinyl landscape pond liner to it. As far as the heat tape goes, will it melt through the liner?

Are you building a pond or a vivirium of sorts for your snake? I think that you if you thought about it you could do better than a 9 or so gal pond liner. You'll be scooping dirty water out of this thing every 2 to 3 days. Especially with a boids they love to take dumps in warm water.

Lighting- Special bulbs? UV wise. Basically the top will have recessed ceramic fixtures to keep everything looking clean. I'm thinking 3 or 4 fixtures at the top.

Ok, I'm thinking you maybe thinking of cooking your snake(s), what you need is simple an heat source that emites say 100F~150F and projects say 88F~92F at the level of where you want the snake to bask. The lighting system is mainly in place for your enjoyment of your animals. I know it sounds strange but keep in mind breeders only supply ambient light through milky whitish sweater boxes to there snakes, unless there showcasing a snake.

Sorry for all the questions, but like i said, I'm brand new to the snake keeping and dont want anything to go wrong.

Tequila just grins.... obviously you haven't received the bill I mail the other day yet.

RedDevilDon2005;3518649; said:
I'm not sure yet. The pond I'm looking at is 9gal. 26" wide (its a circle) and I think 9" deep. I ran into a problem with the heat mats i was going to use. They get WAY to hot. Basically I was going to have the 3/8" plywood, heat mat, then the vinyl pond liner. I believe the one I looked at today was a Fluker(sp?) 11"x11." It runs at 100 degrees constantly. Does anyone else see a problem with that or am I just freaking out over nothing? I know I'm going to need both and I don't want to have to use lights to heat the floor of the viv at night.

Yeah I see many problems, example: the pond liner will melt over time or at the least warp.

RedDevilDon2005;3518714; said:
That just seems really hot for some reason. I was going to have the top lights and the mats on timers. Lights during the day, mat at night.

Dude I trust the this cage of yours will have some sort of base under it. Plywood perhaps, you will need a trench cut out in the plywood, nothing too deep just enough to allow the tape to breathe. If the tape can't breathe it will smolder or melt. And over time the plastic coating that covers the heating element will melt, causing the live wiring to come in contact with the plywood. And yes you will have a fire hazard on your hands.

I have used 3.75 and 11 inch flex watt heat tape and both will burn is given the chance. You must have like 1/16~1/8 inch breathing space, you cannot have the heat tape mashed between the cage and whatever your using as a base.
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Let me rephrase, lol.

The viv will be built on a base. There will be a plywood top to the base. Inside the base will be a filter for the pond. I was going to pond line the base of the entire base, on top the plywood. The pond will be filtered and heated so im not worried about the water quality.

I'm just tryin not to screw up this set up. I want a nice show viv for my living room.
 
lets see some drawings or a sketchup of what you are doing, it is difficult to visualize it how you are describing it...
 
RedDevilDon2005;3523090; said:
Bought the base tonight. I went with a different design, its 36" wide 24" deep and 37" tall. And I'm still planning on going at least 3' in the air.

You've lost me, just the base itself is: 37T x 36W x 24D? or is that the measurements of the whole unit?
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