This aint good
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krichardson;3944828; said:
Not ruffled here. I just stated that this needed to be done. If people want to keep the ones on the list then pay the license fee. It sound's pretty simple.
A friend of mine had a diamond back he cought as a baby. He applied and recieved a license from the state to keep him. When he couldn't keep him any longer he did the right thing and called the Florida Wildlife Game and Fish Comision. They took possession of the snake and planned on putting him on show somewhere.
As far as the comment on the keeping reptiles. It sure sounded like it was direct toward me. Espically since I was the only person commenting for the ban.
For all of the responsible reptile owners out there, kudos on a job well done. But you have to agree with me on the people who shoud not own these pets.
Do all of the responsable owners out there have the license? Just a thought.
krzr3000;3944916; said:
You are right.
I am sure this will never happen again.....anywhere. Espicially since it didn't happen in the wild.
So what your saying is a hungry adult python would NOT eat you if it had the chance.
Snakes ARE an issue in the Everglades. You can't deny that.
Just buy the license.
koidaddy;3944976; said:
The point is, noone will be able to get a license if they enact this ban. They will grandfather in anyone currently licensed to own the species, but after the ban, NOONE will be allowed to import, buy, breed, or sell any of those species, period.
I don't live in Florida, and I don't currently keep reptiles, but this would have me calling my congressperson/senator every day, and telling every person I know of to call to try to block it.
Yes, invasives are a problem, but a flat ban will not solve anything but to push sales completely into the black market, drive up prices, and create more headaches for law enforcement. If they simply enforced the licensing, and actually created (and IMPLEMENTED) effective measures of controlling invasives in the wild, then most of the problems would at least be addressed, if not completely solved.
And as far as the python killing the child, that's a horrible story, but its the owners fault, not the snakes. The snake was doing what it does, which is hunt for prey. The imbecile in the story 1-shouldn't have had the snake, 2-shouldn't have had it in a container it could escape from, and 3-shouldn't have allowed any scenario for it to get into the child's room.
This ban would NOT have removed the snake from that house. It would simply prevent those actually able to care for them from ever owning them legally.
koidaddy;3944976; said:
You've seen an invasive python in the everglades? Do you know anyone who has seen one? Have any data to backup how much of a problem they are, after the cold in january? Has an invasive python killed or attacked anyone in the everglades?
This issue is narrow minded and up to the brim with misinformation.
I agree, outright banning wouldn't be the best answer, IMO.
I think heavily regulating it with tax stamps and lienses is the key. Many people let them go simply because they can't afford to keep the pet in the first place or get tired/bored with it. I say at least a 100% tax and a lengthy license application process would weed out a lot of the problems, IMO.
I too had a small ball python for 10 years and loved him. To this day my neighbor has him, and he is in the best of health. IDK if they are on the list or not but whatever.
I think heavily regulating it with tax stamps and lienses is the key. Many people let them go simply because they can't afford to keep the pet in the first place or get tired/bored with it. I say at least a 100% tax and a lengthy license application process would weed out a lot of the problems, IMO.
I too had a small ball python for 10 years and loved him. To this day my neighbor has him, and he is in the best of health. IDK if they are on the list or not but whatever.
I can't help what my remark sounded or looked like to you but you need to look back and read all of the posts if you feel that my statement was directed toward you.koidaddy;3944912; said:As far as the comment on the keeping reptiles. It sure sounded like it was direct toward me. Espically since I was the only person commenting for the ban.
koidaddy;3944976; said:
What you say is true about buying a license and responcible owners have . problem is Florida NEVER enforced this law. I still go to a pet store that sells baby pythons now and than to anyone who buys them.
I think the law required registration of owner and min 18 yrs old . NEVER EVER enforced .
Florida is a joke of a state when it comes to enforcing laws like these among many other laws so responcible keepers always suffer.
Red ear sliders are illegal here but drones of them are sold by the beach every summer .
If the state ESP the FWC for once got its act together and enforced laws esp pet stores who don't comply and street animal vendors things would move in the right direction.
I dont see that happening as its just an ill run place but again I agree with you about buying licenses,etc but the irresponcible people laugh at this knowing the state is a joke.
krzr3000;3945045; said:
Well inform us man! Point us to the links or resources that prove your point!
It really sounds like your the one being narrow minded. Do a search on some of the Florida's hunting and fishing forums, bro. These are the guys that see what these invasive species are doing on a daily basis. Hell, the state of Florida has hunting programs that pay qualified trapping contractors to hunt and kill these things all day long.
