This aint good

[Louie]

True, I totally forgot about plants. What do you have to say about Brazilian pepper and potato vine? Also I haven't seen a Carolina anole in three years!

And yeah that was totally uncalled for megalops. Gotta keep it civil in forum posts

I don't know anything about Brazilian peppers or potato vines just the palm tree's . My father in law who is Cuban told me they were bought over from Cuba in bulk which is why I mentioned that the Caribbean small lizards-frogs came than if not before in other types of cargo such as bananas .

I had some nice Carolina anoles in my yard but not many .
2 yrs ago I planted thick tree's and more bushs and though as of now only 6 feet high they hung out there plus I eat lots fruit and put the peels,etc by the tree bottoms to attract insects which they ate all day long.
Last summer I had lots of tiny green anole babies all over the patio.

During the cold spell several adults "froze" on the branches and as of now do not see any at all only the brown anoles and its been weeks .

 

[coura]

That was uncalled for. Just because he sees the problem from a different perspective, and doesn't agree with you doesn't mean conversing with him is "retarded".

Both of your points are valid, and need to be addressed. You can't protect the native species if there's nowhere for them to live, and what's the point in protecting land if there's no natives let to live there?

You have to protect BOTH of them, or neither will survive very long without the other.

Sorry but I disagree on your last point. YES it is highest priority to save both the species and their envoirement BUT if in case of a catastrofy I think its better to take a emergency action and actualy remove the organisms before its to late then letting them disapear all together. It has been done before with sucess, but yes its a last action resource.

 

[Louie]

I apologize, Louie. Your not retarded in the least. Just trying to get my point across, to a yankee.

Lol these types of debates get heated . "Yankee" I take as a compliment thanks .

 

[Conner]

Sorry but I disagree on your last point. YES it is highest priority to save both the species and their envoirement BUT if in case of a catastrofy I think its better to take a emergency action and actualy remove the organisms before its to late then letting them disapear all together. It has been done before with sucess, but yes its a last action resource.

I agree the animals should be removed if the habitat is completely destroyed, but there are not many area's where a native species can be relocated successfully, and still thrive on its own. They will always be a borderline species that probably can't survive on its own without human intervention.

In that case, the only thing that would have saved the species (in a wild, successful reproducing population) would have been saving enough of their habitat.

 

[coura]

I was talking about getting the animals or plants into the safety of captivity and build a population with the intent of reintroducing them back into the wild in the future. Unfornatly we live in a human being increasingly dominated world, more and more species are in need of human help to survive and if we dont do just that we risk losing them all.

 

[Pomatomus]

Conner, this thread is about a ban on specific exotic reptiles; not about saving their habitat. This is getting way too tangential.

 

[Conner]

Conner, this thread is about a ban on specific exotic reptiles; not about saving their habitat. This is getting way too tangential.

I know its about the ban. The general discussion became about why the ban was needed (or not, as the case may be). That then led to what is actually causing the issues with natives that they are impacting/replacing, and what needs to be done to solve the real issue, which is disappearing native species. I was just following the flow of the thread man!

To get back to topic, there is NO reason for a ban of this sort. If current regulations were enforced, and some plan actually formulated to start removing invasives from the wild, then most of the problems would be addressed. A ban will solve absolutely nothing but to cause more trouble and headaches for law abiding citizens and the regulatory agencies in Florida.

 

[Nabbig2]

If people are so determined to help florida's wildlife and ecosystem, they should just kill themselves. Really, one person damages the ecosystem in his lifetime more than hundreds of snakes or fish.