This is getting annoying.

[R1_Ridah]

Parents are more to be blamed here than the school. Were they supportive with his chosen lifestyle? Regardless if bullies are present the kid probably felt more abandoned by his love ones (if they were not supportive) than the bullies themselves. If you parent the child to be more confident and to not be afraid of who they are, regardless what people say it will not matter.

It's really tragic because it's a young child. Not his fault, nor it should be. His mind was not developed to handle such criticism by the outside world. Probably had no support @ home.

It's frustrating when you hear parents also say, "OH, my 12-13 yr old talks back to me and doesn't listen. Sometimes even hits me". Plain and simple they don't respect you.

Seriously, my role as a parent is to be a parent! Not to be their best friend and for them to treat & speak to me as if one. The food I put on the table is what they eat, I don't ask what they want to eat. Tough love goes a long way and builds character. Shoot, not once have my Dad ever said he loves me, however his actions speaks a thousand words. Even when he whipped me on the ass with his belt....lol

 

[HULON]

Parents are more to be blamed here than the school. Were they supportive with his chosen lifestyle? Regardless if bullies are present the kid probably felt more abandoned by his love ones (if they were not supportive) than the bullies themselves. If you parent the child to be more confident and to not be afraid of who they are, regardless what people say it will not matter.

It's really tragic because it's a young child. Not his fault, nor it should be. His mind was not developed to handle such criticism by the outside world. Probably had no support @ home.

It's frustrating when you hear parents also say, "OH, my 12-13 yr old talks back to me and doesn't listen. Sometimes even hits me". Plain and simple they don't respect you.

Seriously, my role as a parent is to be a parent! Not to be their best friend and for them to treat & speak to me as if one. The food I put on the table is what they eat, I don't ask what they want to eat. Tough love goes a long way and builds character. Shoot, not once have my Dad ever said he loves, however his actions speaks a thousand words.

Very well put joe !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And in the end your kids maybe not now will love and respect you even more like i do my parents

 

[biohazardcustomz]

the amount of hatred that someone must project to get another to feel that low, should be punishable by law IF it is proven. in many of these cases it has been but still, the schools are not at fault unless the incident had been reported and ignored. around here its hard to stand up for someone else let alone yourself. i know a kid that got picked on daily. never said a word about it. he was claiming to be bi sexual almost openly at school and people gave him a hard time. it got around. anyway one day this little foreign girl was getting tormented by some other classmates. calling her a terrorist and such. and she started bawling hysterically. like literally hyperventilating. the teacher did nothing...the kid simply and calmly said please stop, you have been mean to her and she doesnt deserve that kind of treatment. no one does, not even yourself. the bully came back and said what you want some instead? the kid stumbled over his words and eventually said i dont want to fight you or your friends, i just want you to please leave that girl alone. about the time he got that out, the bully and 5 of his friends jumped him. three teachers came in but none tried to break it up because "they were scared" the kid was in the intensive care unit for 4 days with swelling of the brain and lost site permanently in his left eye and lost several adult teeth. and had a nasty concussion. the kids that did it all got suspended for ONE WEEK. when questioned by the local news and such the principal didnt share the whole story of which he was told several times by several people. instead he replied "well maybe if he wasnt prancing around telling people he was a homosexual things like this wouldn't happen to him" in situations like this the school is to blame. if not for stopping it than for the ignorance to just wipe something that serious under the rug.

 

[Bottomfeeder]

Saying that it is the child's fault is the most ignorant thing I have heard in a looooong time. I have been suicidal before. It's like being in a whirlpool and trying to swim against it. Luckily, as I later found out, the suicidal feelings were from a combination of bad reactions to ADD mediaction and a bit of depression, and it's gone. But saying that it is all under the control of the suicidal person is just plain wrong.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

I have been suicidal so has most people. Your the one who had the depression. No one else did. No one gifted to you the depression.

Its not like its all your fault but it sure as heck is not anyone elses fault.

 

[Bottomfeeder]

I don't think it's anyone else's fault. But it's certainly not the person's fault. They don't choose to feel suicidal. No one thinks... "Boy it'd be really funny if I offed myself..." it doesn't work like that. Sorry.

 

[jcardona1]

I don't think it's anyone else's fault. But it's certainly not the person's fault. They don't choose to feel suicidal. No one thinks... "Boy it'd be really funny if I offed myself..." it doesn't work like that. Sorry.

Well then who is to blame? Or better yet, whose responsibility is it to fix yourself? Mental health is a strange subject, and the truth is, only the person going through it KNOWS what is going on and when to seek help.

This goes along the lines of murders committed by those deemed to be legally insane. I don't buy that BS excuse either. Someone should be responsible, and who better than the person that actually committed the crime?

 

[bolivianbaby]

I've dealt with severe depression myself. I've been suicidal on a few occasions.

Yes, the person who commits the suicide is to blame. However, the human psyche is a very strange phenomenon. It's very much affected by outside influence. If a person feels there is no other way to stop the situation, suicide can seem like the only way out. It's impossible to see at the time, but when you hit rock bottom, the only way left is up.

If everyone realizes how much what they do and say affects others, these situations wouldn't be happening.

 

[mike_sema]

If everyone realizes how much what they do and say affects others, these situations wouldn't be happening.

Or if everyone would stop being so uptight and take ever thing so personal this would not be happening.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

Or if everyone would stop being so uptight and take ever thing so personal this would not be happening.

THIS^^ SO FREAKIN HARDCORE THIS^^ people are too uptight and touchy feely sensitive nowdays. If people would pull the sticks out of thier deriers we wouldnt have half the issues we have.

still on page one with my daughter and your mileage may vary i found a way to stop the bulling *my daughter was held back a year tall for her age and over weight with audio dyslexia and a tad slow* i walked into the office and told the principal "this isn't tollerable" then i gott the kids name and the fathers name. i walked over to the fathers house and told the dad "your kid an my kid disagree it got physical my kid doesn't stand a chance against your kid. if it happens again talk to me if mine started it let me know. and i will handle it. BUT IF YOUR KID EVER LAYS HANDS ON MINE AGAIN WITH OUT JUST CAUSE I WILL VISIT 100X TIMES THE PAIN ON YOU THAT MINE GOES THROUGH and that includes mental emotional bulling and bulling through other people. i won't involve the cops i will take my pound of flesh outa your arse before you even know why." the next time there was a problem the principal who previously couldn't do any thing calls up saying "umm... mr *name changed for legal reasons* your daughter and said other girl will involved in a physical altercation and mr X so and so's father is wanting to you to know his kid is in deep trouble aready every thing is fine and won't happen again and we the school have informed the police that a bulling trend has now been established so next time charges will be pressed automatically. i doubt this will happen again and your daughter is is not hurt.

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Bottom, people need to step up and take the blame. Who is to blame for my mothers attempted suicide? MY MOTHER. The person who attempts suicide is to blame for thier suicide. If they choose not to seek help than they are to blame. You are to blame for every single thing you ever do. Can you be tricked? Yeah but u still chose to do it. Can you be mentally ill and do something a sane person wouldnt? Yeah but u still made the decision. And you should still get punished. Even if that means you go to a mental hospitol your entire life.

All in all, you need to own up to what you do. Your actions are your fault and thats it.