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[redtailcatfreak]

You keep quoting that statistic, have you ever been to Florida? The Everglades are pretty much the only area completely uninhabitable and while large they dont account for 75% of our very large state.

thats what im saying and people live in the everglades. plus that like a 7 hour drive. Just for a snake? no way in hell would they do that.

 

[sneary53]

There seems to be a lot of drama over this situation at hand... I am interested to see where this goes.. how about someone look up the actual law for these "majestic animals" it probably going to be contradicted and unsure but I would have to agree and say no zoo for this big guy it would be the slow death that we wouldn't wanna see for him... you know... I wonder what the great steve irwin would have done... I think if I would have been in control I.would have kept it alive and reported it to a senator or some jacka$$ governmental official... make them kill it if it is truely the law... but I am also torn because I wouldn't want it near my family...

 

[krzr3000]

if its a threat its killed and thats just how it is. No questions asked. Im trying to become a Florida Wildlife Conservation officer and trust me thats just what they do. And where do you get 75% of florida is not suitable for the human poppulation have you every been here (outside of Orlando or a beach) no where is uninhabitable. Hell Disney was built in a swamp.Hell 50% is cattle land and other farms. Cant take it there cause thats would endanger livestock and people who work on the farms. its not that easy to just find a spot and let it go. It has to be state land and away from any population. And florida has too much of that. thats why we keep finding these animals coming into populated areas in the first place. theres nowhere for them to go.

You keep quoting that statistic, have you ever been to Florida? The Everglades are pretty much the only area completely uninhabitable and while large they dont account for 75% of our very large state.

thats what im saying and people live in the everglades. plus that like a 7 hour drive. Just for a snake? no way in hell would they do that.

South florida is not the only wilderness left in florida despite the massive suburban sprawl. Competent "professional trappers" and even hobbyists are well equipped to handle venomous snakes safely and efficiently unlike the supposed in this story. This is like beating a dead horse as this happened years ago...but claiming it can't be relocated doesn't make sense. There is plenty of managed land in the state.

State forests alone...

There are currently 35 State Forests that total over 1,052,000 acres.

http://www.fl-dof.com/state_forests/

 

[krzr3000]

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I am also torn because I wouldn't want it near my family...

I think that is the general sentiment amongst most people. But size doesn't matter...the are numerous venomous species which are considerably smaller yet just as deadly.

 

[redtailcatfreak]

South florida is not the only wilderness left in florida despite the massive suburban sprawl. Competent "professional trappers" and even hobbyists are well equipped to handle venomous snakes safely and efficiently unlike the supposed in this story. This is like beating a dead horse as this happened years ago...but claiming it can't be relocated doesn't make sense. There is plenty of managed land in the state.

State forests alone...

http://www.fl-dof.com/state_forests/

they wont put it in a state park. its too much of a liability. And you need to have a Reptiles of Consern Permit which isnt easy to get and not to many people are capable of housing a rattler of this size.

 

[sneary53]

I think the whole thing about size and there being smaller snakes with just as much venom is the old theory if I can't see it its not there... ya know.. dont get me wrong I personally couldn't bring myself to kill this giant... but when it comes to the smaller ones that people pass over and don't care to seebecause they dont bring the fascination that these giants do.. theadd on top of their giant size... the. People also realize.. oh crap it's a rattler kill it... yes he should have been relocated... but I would still like to see where the laws stand on this one....

 

[redtailcatfreak]

I think the whole thing about size and there being smaller snakes with just as much venom is the old theory if I can't see it its not there... ya know.. dont get me wrong I personally couldn't bring myself to kill this giant... but when it comes to the smaller ones that people pass over and don't care to seebecause they dont bring the fascination that these giants do.. theadd on top of their giant size... the. People also realize.. oh crap it's a rattler kill it... yes he should have been relocated... but I would still like to see where the laws stand on this one....

yeah i dont agree with pointless killing. I always say dont kill it unless ur gonna eat it. and size matters but not in the way of being more lethal. smaller snakes are more deadly because they are quicker and with juviniles they inject more venom than adualts because they cant control it. most larger rattler bites are acctually ''dry bites'' they only use venom when for food and not protection. but sometimes they do.

 

[Mavrick813]

if its a threat its killed and thats just how it is. No questions asked. Im trying to become a Florida Wildlife Conservation officer and trust me thats just what they do. And where do you get 75% of florida is not suitable for the human poppulation have you every been here (outside of Orlando or a beach) no where is uninhabitable. Hell Disney was built in a swamp.Hell 50% is cattle land and other farms. Cant take it there cause thats would endanger livestock and people who work on the farms. its not that easy to just find a spot and let it go. It has to be state land and away from any population. And florida has too much of that. thats why we keep finding these animals coming into populated areas in the first place. theres nowhere for them to go.

Some simple research will tell you that Fl holds one of the most diverse and sprawled protected ecosystems in the country. Besides the Everglades their are well over 1,000,000 Acres of conservation area in Fl that this snake could have been released into. And YES Disney is built on a swamp. AFTER 27,000+ Acres of Swamp were Drained, Plowed, and Destroyed. Keep in Mind that Disney also bought all of that land under several different names in order to keep locals from being conerned about development. If Disney were being built today; EPA, and ASPCA would stop him dead in his tracks.

You keep quoting that statistic, have you ever been to Florida? The Everglades are pretty much the only area completely uninhabitable and while large they dont account for 75% of our very large state.

I've been to Daytona every year for 4 weeks for the last 10 years. During these trips I take time to visit state parks from the West coast to the East Coast. I've yet to live in Fl but will eventually one day hike my behind down their from NJ permanently.

thats what im saying and people live in the everglades. plus that like a 7 hour drive. Just for a snake? no way in hell would they do that.

Yes people live in random locations throughout the Everglades. However their are still 100s of thousands of acres that people can barely get to. People are still making discoveries in Fl regarding Max wildlife size, and the spread of invasive species into the Eco System BESIDES Burmese Pythons. Even with the right resources their are still soo many location in Fl that most Conservationists wouldn't even attempt to get to.

they wont put it in a state park. its too much of a liability. And you need to have a Reptiles of Consern Permit which isnt easy to get and not to many people are capable of housing a rattler of this size.

Follow the entire West Coast of Fl from Pensacola to Apalochicola, Then jump south to the Everglades, If none of those locations are suitable for a Venomous release. Pick any Conservation area throughout the entire center of the state. Theirs almost 1,000,000 Acres of them.

South florida is not the only wilderness left in florida despite the massive suburban sprawl. Competent "professional trappers" and even hobbyists are well equipped to handle venomous snakes safely and efficiently unlike the supposed in this story. This is like beating a dead horse as this happened years ago...but claiming it can't be relocated doesn't make sense. There is plenty of managed land in the state.

State forests alone...

http://www.fl-dof.com/state_forests/

Thanks for pointing that out.

Mike

 

[Red Devil]

Some simple research will tell you that Fl holds one of the most diverse and sprawled protected ecosystems in the country. Besides the Everglades their are well over 1,000,000 Acres of conservation area in Fl that this snake could have been released into. And YES Disney is built on a swamp. AFTER 27,000+ Acres of Swamp were Drained, Plowed, and Destroyed. Keep in Mind that Disney also bought all of that land under several different names in order to keep locals from being conerned about development. If Disney were being built today; EPA, and ASPCA would stop him dead in his tracks.




I've been to Daytona every year for 4 weeks for the last 10 years. During these trips I take time to visit state parks from the West coast to the East Coast. I've yet to live in Fl but will eventually one day hike my behind down their from NJ permanently.




Yes people live in random locations throughout the Everglades. However their are still 100s of thousands of acres that people can barely get to. People are still making discoveries in Fl regarding Max wildlife size, and the spread of invasive species into the Eco System BESIDES Burmese Pythons. Even with the right resources their are still soo many location in Fl that most Conservationists wouldn't even attempt to get to.




Follow the entire West Coast of Fl from Pensacola to Apalochicola, Then jump south to the Everglades, If none of those locations are suitable for a Venomous release. Pick any Conservation area throughout the entire center of the state. Theirs almost 1,000,000 Acres of them.





Thanks for pointing that out.

Mike

i never knew some of these statistics and about disney land.. interesting stuff

 

[eatingleg4peanut]

If it's dead I hope they ate it. Rattlesnake is good eaten, like a mixture of chicken and eel/shrimp. I'm not trolling, if they did kill it it should have been eaten, I pay good money for that kind of stuff online.