Too many water changes? Is it possible?

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the mini cycle theory, is that since the water is clean most of the time, the biological bacteria will die off, which they do, but never all of it. even if you did religous 100% waterchanges daily, then flaked off for a week, i think there would be only a VERY sight spike, and that would go away rather quickly.

there was an article about keeping oscars, and the guy put like 12 in a 75 gallon tank and did 100% wc's daily, and had another oscar in a 300 gallon with weekly changes, and the ones in the 75 were much healthier, grew faster, and they would even go right in the stream of the buckets of fresh water being poured into the tank.

there is NO such thing as too large of water changes!!!!!!!
 
crashinc25;1006092; said:
I agree with the temp. change thing and think that small changes are probably better, but more like every 2nd day, not every day. I think the new water needs a chance to mix with the existing and good/bad stuff get all swooshed together. Just my scientific/technical input!

Yes i agree with you. Nice avitor
 
X24;1006532; said:
the mini cycle theory, is that since the water is clean most of the time, the biological bacteria will die off, which they do, but never all of it. even if you did religous 100% waterchanges daily, then flaked off for a week, i think there would be only a VERY sight spike, and that would go away rather quickly.

there was an article about keeping oscars, and the guy put like 12 in a 75 gallon tank and did 100% wc's daily, and had another oscar in a 300 gallon with weekly changes, and the ones in the 75 were much healthier, grew faster, and they would even go right in the stream of the buckets of fresh water being poured into the tank.

there is NO such thing as too large of water changes!!!!!!!
I heard about that study. I for one agree with it. I have grown my jack dempsey from 1.5 inch to nearly 5 in less than 8 weeks. I figure it's the twice weekly 50% water changes. I just wanted some more opinions on it.
 
Well, I do 9% water changes (5 gallon bucket, from a 55g tank) about 5-9 times a day, and the effects, thus far, have been positive. Growth is increased, and their vigor seems better. So, I'd say don't worry about it.
 
tb_077;1005817; said:
10% daily W/C is, IMO, much better than one weekly 70% W/C. Fact being that a drastic change in almost any type of parameter can have an adverse affect on your fish.

BillD;1005985; said:
A 10% daily change is not the same as 1 weekly 70% change, actually, not even close. When I was raising angel fry, I did no less than 60% daily.
How do you reduce nitrates "too much"?


Not close bro. Much better, IMO. As for nitrates, I did state, almost any parameter.

No offence intended bud. I just wanted to clarfy my statement.:)
 
cenecker;1006411; said:
Okay seriously - large water changes stress fish? what's stressful about clean water?

Lots of things are stressfull to your fish in “freshwater” even if you manage to exactly match your ph, temp and hardness.

The tank and the tap water differ considerably in terms of organic and inorganics dissolved there in.

A fishes skin unlike yours is water permeable so when you change the water suddenly you change the contents of the fish and the fishes homeostatic systems have to work hard to maintain a balance.

The longer you leave it between water changes the more dissimilar the tank and tap water will be.

fhsfiremanco1;1006797; said:
no fish likes aged water. http://www.theoscarspot.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=49&topic=4894.0
that proves it they live wild with 100% or more daily water changes.
Josh

The fish does not live with 100% water changes in the wild it lives with micro water changes in the wild running continuously.

So long as you managed to ensure the water was changed very quickly and continuously then the tank water would remain constant.

However, you would not want to use tap water for this process as it has a number of unpleasant chemicals which need to be removed.

In order to perform constant unstressing water changes you would need to remove these chemicals before they reach the fish rather than immerse the fish in them and then wait for them to be removed.

Indeed water conditioner manufacturers will tell you that you must pre-mix their product in a bucket prior to adding to a tank simply because the dechlorination process is not instantaneous, particularly for chloramines.
 
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