top water predators for 80 gallon

[hancotip]

Sunsun

 

[Joshuakahan]

I can but Sinsen hw 3000

That works too, but it’s more than the ac110. I’d just get sponges or a 304b for $75

 

[hancotip]

You said i needed 2 110 didnt you.
What is a 304b

 

[Joshuakahan]

You said i needed 2 110 didnt you.
What is a 304b

I always say two when I’m talking about HOBs on a 4ft tank. I just think one on each side is better, no real reason for that. But you would probably be ok with one. Just clean it more frequently. Or put a ac70 on each side
It’s a canister filter, my bad $95. Any of these options would work fine as long as you keep up with the maintenance

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[Caveden]

If you’re dead set on a lower jaw, I’d get CB endis. But I strongly think you’d be better off with delhezi.
If your budget is tight, I’d shop for used AC 110s or even 70s or just go with some large spongefilters with strong pumps and have a good maintenance schedule. Check CLL pet supplies on eBay, they sell cheap lights and have good deals on the sun sun 304b if you want to go that route

80g too small for endlis, no? Think minimum would be a 125g, or 4 x 2 footprint for CBs.

 

[Joshuakahan]

80g too small for endlis, no? Think minimum would be a 125g, or 4 x 2 footprint for CBs.

I think iit is too small for life

 

[hancotip]

But i am gonna sell them when i move out from my parents with the whole aquarium and them i will buy a 125 or larger

 

[hancotip]

Depends on the dimension but if its a 48"x18" footprint. Most of the upper jaws and some cb lower jaws (but it depends) should be fine in it for life.
To elaborate on what I mean by "it depends", it will mainly depend on the fish's genetics on how big they'll grow. Generally speaking, captive bred ones will not grow as big as the wild ones especially if it has an inbred look to it.
Another factor is the bichir's appetite, how much does the fish actually eat, some bichirs (especially wild caught ones) just eat enough to maintain/get by, so those ones are less likely to reach their max potential size.
Bichir's size/growth is also affected by the water quality as well. (how much and how often you are going to be doing water changes)

As for how many, that's probably dependent on your filtration and your own preference. (do you like the empty look or the carpet look?)

What did you mean with empty or carpet?

 

[Joshuakahan]

What did you mean with empty or carpet?

Some people like to have a lot that cover the bottom and other just have a few like in the pictures of mine

 

[hancotip]

I like to have many