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I'd honestly never suggest an electic animal for a private hobbiest.
These guys aren't easy to care for by anymeans, and you'll be over your head.
There are many hardier species of rays to look into when the time comes. Just be aware that they all require a LOT of time and money to keep properly. Cutting corners and taking short cuts never leads to sucess with them.
These guys aren't easy to care for by anymeans, and you'll be over your head.
There are many hardier species of rays to look into when the time comes. Just be aware that they all require a LOT of time and money to keep properly. Cutting corners and taking short cuts never leads to sucess with them.
Ahh, what a bummer 
It might just be FW rays for me then, at least initially.
Thanks for the advice.
It might just be FW rays for me then, at least initially.
Thanks for the advice.
The recent thread about a butterfly ray giving birth to two adorable little pups now has me wondering, is there any type of butterfly ray even remotely suitable for private captivity? That gulfspecimen site that I mentioned earlier does have smooth butterfly rays (Gymnura micrura) available, but when I looked up information about the animal I learned that this species can grow 90cm long. Whether or not "long" means front to back or side to side I don't know. If it's front to back then HOLY **** THAT'S A BIG RAY! Even if it's side to side it's still quite a hefty animal.
I think a butterfly ray would be quite an interesting creature to keep. I'm even less likely to get one of these than I am to get an electric ray (that is, itself, highly unlikely), but one could always dream I suppose
Anyway, I can find literally no information regarding any type of butterfly ray other than this one, the Californian one (which apparently has a stinger), or the Giant Spiny one. The Californian one is also quite big and the giant one is... well... giant. Is anyone here aware of any type of "smaller" butterfly ray?
P.S. Sorry for necroposting on a thread that should have died a while ago. None the less I'm also going to C&P this question to sharkraycentral. It's always nice to get multiple feedback.
Thanks for your time.
I think a butterfly ray would be quite an interesting creature to keep. I'm even less likely to get one of these than I am to get an electric ray (that is, itself, highly unlikely), but one could always dream I suppose
Anyway, I can find literally no information regarding any type of butterfly ray other than this one, the Californian one (which apparently has a stinger), or the Giant Spiny one. The Californian one is also quite big and the giant one is... well... giant. Is anyone here aware of any type of "smaller" butterfly ray?
P.S. Sorry for necroposting on a thread that should have died a while ago. None the less I'm also going to C&P this question to sharkraycentral. It's always nice to get multiple feedback.
Thanks for your time.
Not a chance. Smooth butterflys are the hardest species of ray I've kept in my career.... And I'm still fighting day and night to keep them alive with fairly good resources at hand. So little is known about them.
Smooths get 4 feet wing tip to wing tip. Not small, but not big compared to other marine rays. Spiney have been recorded well over 10 feet, some as big as 13.
Smooths get 4 feet wing tip to wing tip. Not small, but not big compared to other marine rays. Spiney have been recorded well over 10 feet, some as big as 13.
In spite of the fact that this thread is approaching its 1/2 year anniversary, I suddenly feel an urge to post on it again.
I'm sorry everyone.
Anyway I was poking around the forums here and I saw someone mention a wholesale site called "www.qualitymarine.com" and I came across this critter
http://www.qualitymarine.com/Products/Fish/Wild/Rays/Diplobatis-ommata/Electric-Bullseye
The "Bullseye Electric Ray" which, according to Wikipedia, only grows to 25cm. I'm anything but an expert, but 25cm is absolutely tiny for a marine (or freshwater) batoid. As I have since learned, even small SW rays require much bigger tanks than FW rays of similar proportions, but I still feel as though this could fit happily into a manageable 250-300 gallon tank. That same wholesale site has the Lesser Electric Ray that I asked about before, some weird thing (Narcine Brunneus) for which there's absolutely no scientific information for that I could find, and a Torpedo ray (which seems extremely dangerous to me).
I have done a little bit of reading in the past few months and found out that electric rays (well, the Lesser Electric Ray anyway) has an extremely tough time adapting to captivity and often refuses to eat anything except live marine worms (and other things of the like). I'm going to assume this applies to the Bullseye ray too. Since I do not live anywhere near any type of saltwater shore would there be any way I could get a hold of a live culture of marine worms? I'd prefer raising them myself, or finding a reliable source for them.
Once again, all this is for (distant) future reference. I have nowhere near the funds or experience to keep any type of cartilaginous fish at this time. But never the less, I will be extremely great full for any advice you guys can give.
I'm sorry everyone.
Anyway I was poking around the forums here and I saw someone mention a wholesale site called "www.qualitymarine.com" and I came across this critter
http://www.qualitymarine.com/Products/Fish/Wild/Rays/Diplobatis-ommata/Electric-Bullseye
The "Bullseye Electric Ray" which, according to Wikipedia, only grows to 25cm. I'm anything but an expert, but 25cm is absolutely tiny for a marine (or freshwater) batoid. As I have since learned, even small SW rays require much bigger tanks than FW rays of similar proportions, but I still feel as though this could fit happily into a manageable 250-300 gallon tank. That same wholesale site has the Lesser Electric Ray that I asked about before, some weird thing (Narcine Brunneus) for which there's absolutely no scientific information for that I could find, and a Torpedo ray (which seems extremely dangerous to me).
I have done a little bit of reading in the past few months and found out that electric rays (well, the Lesser Electric Ray anyway) has an extremely tough time adapting to captivity and often refuses to eat anything except live marine worms (and other things of the like). I'm going to assume this applies to the Bullseye ray too. Since I do not live anywhere near any type of saltwater shore would there be any way I could get a hold of a live culture of marine worms? I'd prefer raising them myself, or finding a reliable source for them.
Once again, all this is for (distant) future reference. I have nowhere near the funds or experience to keep any type of cartilaginous fish at this time. But never the less, I will be extremely great full for any advice you guys can give.
