They come here and ask 'Why did my fish die?" and you among others jump on your high horse and start flameing the person.. so guess what? instead of enducating and helping others... you either run them off... or encourage them to just quit keeping fish. Most of these are kids as well. It doesn't help the hobby, or anyone else.. and just feeds your ego.
Hi Amy,
Are you still upset about me stating the obvious that SBUSE's 180G tank was too small for 5 Aros, 6 Gar, a TSN, a TSNxRTC Hybrid a Niger Cat? Even if it was the pesticides or the bass from his neighbors stereo (as he hypothesized) that killed all of those fish, the bio-load eventually would have done them all in.
I agree that once in a while, a fish will die and it's outside of our control, but in situations like this, you are setting yourself up for failure. There is no good that will come from trying to keep all those fish in a 180G tank. After reading several of your recent threads, I think I understand why you like to defend people that consistently lose fish...you are one of them.
I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt before assuming they are intentionally abuseing animals... and if they are... It comes apparent pretty quick they are not here ot learn, just brag... and they stop getting help... and they eventually disaapear and find a new hobby.
Intentional or not, abuse is abuse. Just because someone doesn't realize what they are doing is wrong, does it make it ok? By turning a blind eye, you are enabling them.
What happens when they never learn and continue the cycle? I wish that what you say were true and that they would just leave the hobby and stop doing such a horrible job keeping fish, but sometimes this is not the case. We are not talking about children here. These people are adults that have been at it for years.
X2 No arguement here. I think you put into words much better then I did. in a nutshell.. but I think I am more a "don't comment, don't encourage" I try not to be negative.. I will on occasion if I feel its needed ( generally when no one else has pointed out what I perceive as a glareing red flag. so the OP hopefully does abit more research or asks more questions)
If I were to remain silent, I'd be guilty of complicity.
― Albert Einstein
I'm not saying you have to put someone on blast, but if you see things that are wrong, there is nothing wrong with asking questions and offering suggestions. I feel as if I have not unfairly gone after anyone...those that I have called out have killed so many fish it's disturbing...I couldn't just sit idly by and offer my condolences, like so many of the enablers on this site tend to do. "So sorry for your loss man." I feel more for the fish that died an untimely death at the hands of an inept MFKer.
I have learned that the best way to educate noobies is to ask them questions.
For example, If I see someone with an RTC, TSN and and Endli in a 56G tank, I would ask them the following questions:
1. Do you know how large those fish grow?
2. What are your long term plans for the fish?
3. Are you aware what a 1,000G+ tank costs and how much it costs to run such a large system?
If they have legitimate answers, that's great. If they get upset, come back with sarcastic remarks and accuse you of flaming, it's probably because they impulsively purchased the fish and do not have the resources to properly care for them.
