updates on firemouths

[livebearerfreak]

Just stop. I'm about to cry.

why

 

[AttackFish]

Unless your floor is made of newspapers and water, a 55 should be fine.

I agree, My house is pretty small, and it holds a 55 downstairs, with a 35 gallon breeder con tank and a turtle enclosure upstairs, and I'm soon putting a 180 gallon up there aswell.

 

[cichla1004]

Holy CRAP!!!!!!! Wow and I am afraid to put my 125 in my living room up stairs and thats why its in my living room downstairs. 4000 LBS is alot for a floor to support he has to have bracing under that such as beams or metal jack supports. I thought most residential floors handle 100 lbs per sq. ft depending on floor joists and type of wood being used for frame work.

I said the same thing when I saw it but maintenance claims 200 lbs per square foot on these floors. Seeing as how it measures something like 12' x' 3 thats what, 36 square feet? So I guess thats about 111 lbs per square foot, roughly.

 

[AttackFish]

why

Extreme bouts of laughter are starting to hurt.

 

[livebearerfreak]

ok all im trying to follow what u all say dont get me wrong on that this is the best site ever but when it comes to my mom ad alll things are kinda stricked so i made a deal with grampa and said if i remove my tv my tv stand my book shelf thats not being used my other shelf thats not being used and move my dresser to the other side of teh room and not set up any more tanks after the 50 to 55 gallon i can hve teh 55 if theres braceing and grampa said he'd check for bracing today. so im trying to follow what u all say and acceptng all the advice to.
i just dont wanna lose noone here due to my family policy

 

[Cross127]

and the 55 is the only tank that i will ahve in my room PERIOD grampa said. so if thers bracing ( wish me luck that there is ). adn all i will have in there is 3 firemouths 1 convict and 1 BP if thats good stocking, is it? and if not what should i keep ( im keepin the firemouths tho ) but can i just keep the fish i have and add nomore fish to the tank?

and my firemouths are schooling and flareing ( 2 are greyish while one is brownish greyish dunno if theres femal and male tho ) and my female convict and male BP is getting ready to bred again.

Most likely your floor will not have any bracing. Trailor houses are usually built on a concrete slab with post going to the gound that are conected to multiple joists and cross members. Your house is just simply to low for any bracing to be needed. Now for a 2 story house thats a difference. Your dealing with alot more weight in a 2 story house. A 55 will be fine on your floor as long as it runs lateral to the cross members and is up against a load bearing wall such as outside walls.

 

[Dread]

the boloni idea came from a thread here on what teh wierdist food u fed ur fish, and sum say boloni so i just asked thats all, i didnt feed my fish boloni anyways. and im geting a 55 if everything works out.

Right, but even a 55 is inadequate for a pair of breeding Jack Dempseys. Let alone that pair, a convict, a Blood Parrot, 3 Firemouths (which you plan to breed, I understand), along with some dithers.

A very major (and for me atleast, most important) aspect of fish keeping is the fishes overall well being. Keeping a fish in a bare tank for long periods of time, with minimal cover, no substrate, no plants, in a tank that is already too small, while changing things every day, is like keeping a fully grown adult human in a bathroom for their life, but every couple of days, some unseen force moves you into another bathroom for a while, and then back to the old bathroom. You'd be quite stressed yourself, especially if the said bathroom is filthy, and it's much much too small for you.

Maybe just a couple of tips, just for the future, and I hope they're heavily taken into consideration, and acted upon:

Buy a tank. The larger the better. Before you add anything, get ALL your supplies together, aside from the fish themselves. Substrate, plants, any additives you need/want for the water, heater, a good filter, driftwood, rocks, and lots of good quality food (frozen, live, pellets, flakes, whatever you'd like) and whatever other cover you plan on using. Set everything up the way you want it, doing your utmost to recreate the fishes natural habitat. Set up hiding places for the fish, and plenty of them. Paradoxically, the more hiding places you have, the more you will see your fish. They feel more comfortable knowing there's plenty of places to dash to at the sign of danger. Don't treat your aquarium like a peice of furnature. It is a home to your fish, and it should be treated as such. Try not to interfere in your aquarium daily goings on, unless it is absolutely nessecary for the fishes well being; ie, water changes, removing a bullied fish, that sort of thing. Before you even go LOOK at the fish you want, research research research, and then guess what? RESEARCH. You should know as much as possible about a fish before you even consider buying it. Then maybe go check out what you can get your hands on. I'm sure I could think of more, but this is all I really want to put into it before I know if it's even going to be read or used like it could be.

 

[livebearerfreak]

well does anyone here live in a trailer house or did that had bracings? and had a 55 or bigger?

 

[Cross127]

I said the same thing when I saw it but maintenance claims 200 lbs per square foot on these floors. Seeing as how it measures something like 12' x' 3 thats what, 36 square feet? So I guess thats about 111 lbs per square foot, roughly.

Wow the whole floor must be made out of oak.

 

[livebearerfreak]

i have a Q for u all. if i remove my tv and tv stand my computer ( which i dont think matters cause its on the other side of the room ) my 2 shelfs and move my dresser to the other end of the room leave all teh space open for a 55 do u think it will work cause my dresser with my fish tank on it wieghts about 120 my bookshelf with the fish tank on it weights abuot 75 pounds and my other dresser weights about 50 ponds and teh tv and stand weights 150 pounds so thats about 435 pounds so will teh 55 be ok?

ok gonna get a pic of the side of teh room that will get the 50 or 55 gallon and u can tell me to remove what if u want