Violent crime down....gun ownership up!

[MTBjake]

And it was also with the help of guns that slaughtered native americans (THE REAL AMERICAN)

Guns didn't win any war, the will of a solider did... risking his/her life to keep what they believed in alive...

And a "REAL MAN", doesn't need a gun to defend himself. Any scared pathetic person can pull a trigger to a gun and end some ones life in the blink of an eye. But its takes a "REAL MAN" to stand in front of his enemies and look in them eyes...

This is the dumbest thing I've heard in a LONG time. The "will of a soldier" using his weapon in the line of duty wins wars. Have you ever been in a firefight?! I have! A firearm at a soldiers side is what enables victory. It's what enables that soldier to finish his tour and come home to his family.
And again a "real man" doesn't need a gun to defend himself? Really? Have you ever dealt with the criminal element of society? How about a woman? My wife knows how to use a 9mm better than most and it's simply to defend herself and her kids if some freak comes into the house in the middle of the night.
I do agree a gun is a last resort weapon and it's use should be avoided if at all possible. And I agree that guns are WAY too glorified in modern American society, but they do have their place.
As far as a "real man" looking his enemy in the eyes that can happen all too easily even using a firearm.


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[lp85253]

Zimmerman was politically connected. He of all people would have had the gun regardless. As we are on the subject of stats you are so bent on using to disarm me look up the stats on the most likely perpetrator of a minority teen being shot. Taking away my right to bare arms will not affect them.

do you really think you owning a gun is gonna stop the "government"(and I really think you mean those scary ,welfare state lovin ,crazy ,black president led persons)from sendin in the national guard to eradicate the"threat".good luck holding them off with that extended mag 9.david koresh thought he was gonna whup some govt butt but you saw what happened to him .your guns aren't gonna save you from a smart bomb or seal team 6 either .good luck on them "constitutional rights".ps the only reason the 2nd amendment hasnt been overturned is the size of the gun industry ,disguised as the NRA .spreading the wealth around d.c.

 

[DavidW]

This guy really doesn't get America. A real sheep he is.

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Lets not go there.
Instead how about you rebut with a logically reasoned argument using some stats or facts, instead of going ad-hominem?
Can do? try.
This way a rare civil MFK gun debate thread can stay open.
thanks

 

[snot]

do you really think you owning a gun is gonna stop the "government"(and I really think you mean those scary ,welfare state lovin ,crazy ,black president led persons)from sendin in the national guard to eradicate the"threat".good luck holding them off with that extended mag 9.david koresh thought he was gonna whup some govt butt but you saw what happened to him .your guns aren't gonna save you from a smart bomb or seal team 6 either .good luck on them "constitutional rights".ps the only reason the 2nd amendment hasnt been overturned is the size of the gun industry ,disguised as the NRA .spreading the wealth around d.c.

Me alone no! Me and the rest of free america yep you bet we could and would

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[snot]

This is the dumbest thing I've heard in a LONG time. The "will of a soldier" using his weapon in the line of duty wins wars. Have you ever been in a firefight?! I have! A firearm at a soldiers side is what enables victory. It's what enables that soldier to finish his tour and come home to his family.
And again a "real man" doesn't need a gun to defend himself? Really? Have you ever dealt with the criminal element of society? How about a woman? My wife knows how to use a 9mm better than most and it's simply to defend herself and her kids if some freak comes into the house in the middle of the night.
I do agree a gun is a last resort weapon and it's use should be avoided if at all possible. And I agree that guns are WAY too glorified in modern American society, but they do have their place.
As far as a "real man" looking his enemy in the eyes that can happen all too easily even using a firearm.


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+1

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[dogofwar]

There is, of course, only one interpretation of "what the 2nd <amendment> was writter for"...

Would it be possible to put aside all of the conspiracy theory for a moment and think about what kinds of rational, reasonable (evidence-based) gun policy that our country could adopt to at least get in line with the rest of the industrial world in terms of murder rates?

Matt

I encourage you to read up on what the 2nd was written for because you obviously lack knowledge on it.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

There is, of course, only one interpretation of "what the 2nd <amendment> was writter for"...

Would it be possible to put aside all of the conspiracy theory for a moment and think about what kinds of rational, reasonable (evidence-based) gun policy that our country could adopt to at least get in line with the rest of the industrial world in terms of murder rates?

Matt

No because we cant. 2nd is clear. Shall not be infringed, means shall not.

We will never reach those other countrys murder rates, and taking away guns ONLY affects those who follow the law. Seeing how an overwhelming majority of guns used in violent crime are not legally obtained, gun restrictions would only disarm those who seek to protect themselves. There is far more reasons than the guns that affect our murder rates. I encourage you to research our countrys diversity compared to those you keep boasting about.

 

[MadRussian79]

3 generations?
Russia is NOT your country. USA is!
or choose, you can't have both( USA doesn't allow dual citizenship).

Actually it does sorry to inform you. The US does not recognize my Russian passport. Russia does not recognize my american passport.

Not apples and oranges. Government beat down the peasants. Then the government of the peasants beat down the peasants. Note the commonality.

Your lord commander Bloomberg want everyone's guns, their butter and their soda. All based on personal supposition. And all the while his personal shock troops get better arms (including AA abilities) and can shot all the minorities like me they want.

 

[MadRussian79]

Don't know IRA did a number on Britt regulars. Partisan units made German occupation an nightmare. Don't have enough smart bombs or Seal teams 6 or otherwise to get even a tiny percentage. If that scenario actually took place after a significant desertion.

"ps the only reason the 2nd amendment hasnt been overturned is the size of the gun industry ,disguised as the NRA .spreading the wealth around d.c. " And that's why i give them 1000s per year. I'm already paying to house, feed and cloth the most degenerate fraction of our population,. Going to the gun range is one hobby I'll be damned before I surrender without a fight. Given the amount that your idol Soros is spreading around in DC if you were correct it would have been overturned already. Nice try though.

 

[MadRussian79]

And a "REAL MAN", doesn't need a gun to defend himself. Any scared pathetic person can pull a trigger to a gun and end some ones life in the blink of an eye. But its takes a "REAL MAN" to stand in front of his enemies and look in them eyes...

And the women walking home at night? She should just man up and take out the 6'3" assailant.