A couple of shots of my young pair of these Carpintes that have caused quite a buzz lately. You guys decide, are they a different race? Comments please!
Vontehillos
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Great photos as usual!
To answer your question, IMO, since they come from the same watershed as Escons, Chairel, etc. I can't see how anyone would consider them a distinct race. There may be characteristics that breed true as the result of the limited collection of wild breeding stock (resulting in a limited breeding population in captivity) but that is the case no matter the species.
Also, since it doesn't seem there are enough fully grown adults with which to establish a viable type, any summary judgments about this fish are premature.
All that said, based on the similar fish already in the hobby for some time, it almost a guarantee that these fish will be knock-outs as adults, even if there's nothing dramatically new about them.
To answer your question, IMO, since they come from the same watershed as Escons, Chairel, etc. I can't see how anyone would consider them a distinct race. There may be characteristics that breed true as the result of the limited collection of wild breeding stock (resulting in a limited breeding population in captivity) but that is the case no matter the species.
Also, since it doesn't seem there are enough fully grown adults with which to establish a viable type, any summary judgments about this fish are premature.
All that said, based on the similar fish already in the hobby for some time, it almost a guarantee that these fish will be knock-outs as adults, even if there's nothing dramatically new about them.
If they're from the same watershed as Escondido and chariel (which they are), then they're the same fish..
The buzz was foolish, the fish is very nice. However the fish in your avatar makes me green with envy lol. I'm on a mad quest to get a high quality male umbee like that. By the way your photography skills are impressive those are very nice shots of your fish.
It is probably hype, most likely variation that is the result of a shallow gene pool, whether or not that occured in a water source in nature that lacks diversity or due to captive breeding, I am unsure.
Bottom line, They look awesome. Enter the second photo in the PoTM contest.
gratz!
Bottom line, They look awesome. Enter the second photo in the PoTM contest.
gratz!
n yeah SWEET pics, wish i had that nice of a camera to catch the colors on my guys, for some reason the large dominant one is very gold in color while the other two are SUPER blue, especially around the gill plates (all are males too so its weird the dom would actually have the least amount of color...)
Very nice George, it's great to see some high quality photo's of these guys. If Escon's and Chariel are classified differently, I really don't see why these shouldn't be also. I too am interested in seeing how they turn out as adults. If Ira can get his hands on some, I'll make sure to get some pics.
GMFISHNUT;3915218; said:
I believe (from what I have read in articles and board posts elsewhere) that the Rio Salto fish is generally considered by the experts to be a new, undescribed species ... and not a carpentis variant. That may have changed in recent years though, DNA is making a mess of classic diagnostics.