Lepisosteus platyrhincus;4669915; said:
how often do they give teens the death penalty? it's almost always consecutive accounts of life in prison
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how often do they give teens the death penalty? it's almost always consecutive accounts of life in prison
I don't believe in rehabilitation for killers. Of course, this depends on the circumstances of the murder. Self defense or heat of passion killings are not the same as premeditated murders in say, a drive-by, school shooting, or armed robbery. This person had a clear intent of what they were trying to accomplish.Lepisosteus platyrhincus;4669915;4669915 said:
I don't feel these people should be given a second chance. You take a life, then you are punished by losing your life. These are not the type of people I want to know are walking around free in our societies. There is no "rehab" for this.
Its not often, because of what needs to be met to get the death penalty, but it has happened im sure. I know they have sentanced them to death while under 18.
The human brain isnt fully developed at 13, nor 18 nor 21. Not untill 25 if im not mistaken.
At 13 they might no right from wrong, but do they really comprehend the full extent of thier crimes? HELL no.
The human brain isnt fully developed at 13, nor 18 nor 21. Not untill 25 if im not mistaken.
At 13 they might no right from wrong, but do they really comprehend the full extent of thier crimes? HELL no.
Lepisosteus platyrhincus;4669929; said:
I don't buy that crap at all. Like I said, it doesn't take a mature adult to know that murder is wrong. Put yourself in a victim's shoes for a moment. What if it were your wife, parent, or son/daughter that was killed by a minor in the robbery of a convenient store, or a drive-by?
Can you honestly tell me that the kid should be let off the hook because he was a minor? How would you feel if he were walking the streets free in no time, because he couldn't be tried as an adult? But had he been 4-5 years older, he'd be spending the rest of his life in prison, or getting the death penalty. How does that make any sense?
u are completely right. there is no rehab for these people. But i consider a 13 dif than an adult doin it. They just dont comprehend the full extent of what they did. they need help, not 50 years in jail or a needle. They need to spend plenty of time behind bars, but at 13 they shouldnt be in jail the rest of thier lives.jcardona1;4669928; said:
But with our justice system being so screwed up, its hard to discern between crimes. A 18 yo has sex with thier 15 yo significant other that they have been dating for 3 years and that is a sex crime. Really? Its just so screwed up.
I never said they should be left off the hook. Just not sentenced the same as an adult. THey need help and to pay thier debt to society, but should never spend 50 years in prison. 15 years? yeah. 20 years? yeah. But life? Never.
Let it be known, I do NOT think a minor commiting a crime should be left off the hook. Just no sentanced the same as an adult(i.e. life in prison, lethal injection etc)
i honestly don't care what they're tried as as long as they don't end up back on the streets. Trying them as adults gives us a better chance of them being locked up for life
ballinouttacntrol;4669991; said:
Couldn't agree more. The problem with allowing a murderer to have the chance to be back on the streets after prison... is that prison does not teach a "murderer" how to act when they get back out. It's been documented that prison or jail at that matter does not rehabilitate even a small percentage of inmates. They only get smarter and stronger as they meet with gangs and other criminals while locked up. So take that 13 year old that just murdered your wife, take him out of society and give him "psychiatric" help, surround him with many other violent criminals and then once he has been away from society long enough to forget how to act, throw him back in. Tell me you want that same 13 year old to come back out on the streets 5-20-even 50 years later after meeting with stronger gangs. And don't tell me that the kid is not going after these gangs or vis versa, because he will be looking for a family and they will offer it to him. His murdering mentallity won't change with maturity. End it while you have it in your grasps.
That would be the dead person?
The question is can they be reformed and should they be reformed?
The first part is maybe. Some can some can't, the factor are long and complex but if everyone is evaluated as an individual we can screen out the reformable.
The second part is the dicey part. The most successful reform programs involve both psych care and job training. So this person kills your friend or family member then you pay for their food, shelter and job training (which non killers have to provide themselves). You care to explain to me why I shouldn't be really hacked off over this?
As far as the innocent kid getting nailed for it, that sucks.
The armed robber going in for murder when his accomplice gets killed I'm all for.
MadRussian79;4670222; said:
I'm of the opinion that is also includes the dead person's family and loved ones.
