Warming/ weird oceans

[skjl47]

S skjl47 In regard to your earlier comment (did not want to include a lenghty quote here) I absolutely agree with your stance of having no children. I don't want any either. The way I see it, having no children not only allows to have a more free, financially easy lifestyle, but also to have less of a guilty conscience to the world itself.

For example: Yes, I might eat meat and I might (hopefully one day) drive a fast car that doesn't get too many MPG but at least I'm not putting 2 more people in the world who, in turn, will ruin the planet by eating meat and driving cars etc.

Bit of a whacky explanation but I hope you see what I mean.

P.S I'm still young so I could change my mind about having children but right now I am adamant I want none.[/QUOTE]

Hello; May I suggest the use of some form of birth control that is reversible and not the vasectomy. I understand that views change so a permanent "fix" is a big step. I was still married to my first wife when I decided to take the permanent fix. She agreed about the no children view. A few years later we divorced and I lost touch, so I do not know if she had children or not.

I am 69 years old and first married at the age of 19. If my first wife and I started having children right away we could possibly have great grandchildren by now. There is some fallacy to this logic even tho I find it appealing. The biggest problem is that so many others have had more than the one child per person or two per couple of the ZPG (zero population growth) idea.
Had all adopted this back in the early 1970's the human population likely would have stabilized. As we know things did not work out that way and the human population has swelled. So the reality seems to be than whatever environmental benefits gained from an individual who does not have children is being more than offset by the others who have more than the ZPG.
There are still the real benefits to an individual with no children in other ways. Being a childless individual seems unlikely to solve the human population issue, but it does not add to the problem either. As I have stated, I do not have sleepless nights from worry about the children and grandchildren that do not exist. I will never be a parent watching a child go hungry or worse. The children I do not have are also not taking food from those who exist and need it now.
You are correct in that being childless can give you a better personal lifestyle. When I see a newborn it makes me think of a Ferrari car. I may be wrong but my guess is that some parents could buy a Ferrari with what the cost of a child can be.

 

[markstrimaran]

We will need open borders, a global minimum wage, a health care system that is not for profit. Tax laws that support the over achiever.
One language. Serious consequences for the above the law, outlaws. A bunch of volunteer politicians that are in it for civic duty. Sending all the nukes into deep outer space. Getting all the youth to graduate high school.
I used to drink a lot of wiskey. I don't any more. So anything is possible.
The warming oceans, are one thing. Here in Iowa some years we are very close to a major drought. The rivers are full of nitrates, as the soil has lost its fertility. Which requires a lot of ammonia fertilizers, to keep the farm profitable.
Unless your amish, around here. The million dollar impliments required for farming , have become unrepairable, with basic mechanical aptitude.

Well I was going to go on about the interior rivers causing ocean problems.

Every time I fill up my diesel pick up. I thank God that he prepared. The fossil fuel supply from when the earth was flooded in Noah's day.
I also see the small nation of Israel as a clock. Some day some one is going to invade, nuke, or try to destroy this small place.
The news is full of events. That pertain to conquering it. Which leads me to ask, will our natural resources run out, before or after. This small nation is destroyed.
If the land is conquered, and I am still here. I will take that as fact. That I am just very highly evolved.
My thoughts on the world's problems. Is they are too complex. For greedy, self centered people to solve. So I personally prefer government at the state levels vs national or global.

 

[skjl47]

Every time I fill up my diesel pick up. I thank God that he prepared. The fossil fuel supply from when the earth was flooded in Noah's day.

hello; may I ask what you mean? You have lost me in this post as in your previous posts. I do not follow the points you are writing about.

to ask, will our natural resources run out, before or after. This small nation is destroyed.

hello; again I do not follow your meaning.

 

[markstrimaran]

Sorry I was on my work break. I did not have enough time too fully explain. I did not want to delete what was typed. So please disregard the rants.

 

[markstrimaran]

Hello; before I comment on the above quotes may I ask that you expand a bit on these views. Not sure I follow where you are going with these statements and do not want to respond out of context.



Hello; I have some experience in the public schools. In the states where I taught students who kept attending school will be allowed to graduate. The issue, as I saw it, was that the students do not need to meet any practical standard of achievement. We called it social promotion among other things. I have known many with high school diplomas who were likely not educated much above a fourth grade level. I guess my point being that a diploma should not be just for time served, but for having actually having gained an education that can be useful in the real world.

It seems impossible to keep the oceans from becoming the garbage dump of the world. As it is so far out of sight, out of mind from most people.
Years ago I worked offshore, in the Gulf of Mexico oil fields. Most of the time in clear blue water. As you get closer to the Mississippi River the floating scum becomes noticeable.
The river drains the heart of a large modern country, with government regulations. That should keep the water cleaner. Than it is.
People just don't care what they dump into the water. Other places are a lot worse.
I am pretty sure that the Swai fish sold at Walmart is pretty much toxic.
I was amazed the first time I ever seen a garbage barge, just into International waters, Freely unloading, tons of house hold garbage. Staight into God's fish tank. It's all perfectly legal, and profitable. Completely wrong however.

 

[skjl47]

Hello; I understand that at the mouth of the Mississippi river there is now a dead zone which extends for many miles. Not sure if I knew about the garbage dumping in international waters but this sounds typical. I get your point.

 

[markstrimaran]

Hilarious Hillary Clinton's tour bus, caught dumping raw sewage in storm drain.

 

[divemaster99]

This thread has been a very good read so far. I could go on for days about how I feel about this subject, but it still wouldn't be enough. I simply can't express how I feel about the condition Earth's environment in words. But to put briefly, humans are an appaling species that (as a whole) believe they are above all other organisms and that the Earth belongs to them. In reality, we're just another species in the evolutionary tree that is a part of the world's ecosystem, not the owners of it. Rampant greed, desire, and self interest along with a growing population and religions (and ethics) which disregard climate change are all leading to the end of the Earth as we know it. And that end is coming much faster than most people anticipate, likely within the next century or two, if humans as a whole don't step up and face this problem head on.

 

[markstrimaran]

It was not all that long ago. That the elephant grew long hair. Sea levels were considerable lower, as vast glaciers covered a large portion of the mid wests corn production area.
I find it interesting that most of the world's data for temperatures. Comes from urban sprawl areas. Places that once were grassy meadows. Today are surrounded with black asphalt, and heat absorbing concrete.
I also find it interesting. That human beings are the only life form. That can control fire. Smelt rocks, and forge steel.
I would like to see more people believe that they have a reason to being alive. Other than being the lucky 1 in a 1,000,000,000,000,000 mutated DNA strand recipient.

 

[Deadliestviper7]

I give mankind 8to ten more years till things start to go apocalyptic.