WATER CHANGE

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orbit;2963680; said:
Ammonia levels will sky rocket which produce Nitrite and Nitrate. Poison basically. And before you or anyone asks or says they have their fish in the tank and they're alive and healthy...... The answer is because they were in the crap while it went to sh_t. Trust me the fish are not healthy in those conditions.

I challenge people who do not do water changes to do them for 2 month, weekly, also add prime to remove the chlorine and tell me what the fish are like and how they look. If you tell me the same you're not paying attention to them.:)

You don't want any signs as when a water change is due! Try at the very least to do them every other week at a minimum.
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Best way to do a comparative test, get two identical tanks say 20g. Buy the same juvi fish to put in each tank. Do daily WCs in one and weekly WCs in the other. Compare the growth of the fish after 6 to 8 weeks.
 
SO what im wondering since ive never done a water change how are all my fish still alive? i mean its been 5-6 some are 7 years old for ****s sake Do you guys really believe that your fish will die if you dont do a wc? Filter 20x+ and you wont have to do water changes

Like imagine a fx5 on a 10g tank with 5 guppys in it

would you ever do a water change if the water was crystal clear or would you just top off the water when it got low

heh just think about it

what im tryin to say is you can only get water so clear i engineer my own filters so maybe this is why i have such arrogance on this topic lol and firmly believe most otc filters they sell to aquarists are vastly underpowered
 
For the legal concept i think that filters when sold should be sold on there real wattage rating then gph

I think the weight of your fish is directly corrlated to how much wattage you need to filter your water i think its about 1 watt per oz of fish for reg stocking

If anybody has any thoughts on this concept let me know but please think before you type
 
why don't you feed everyday and do water changes every like 3 or 4 days? lol.
that way you know they'll have some food!
 
gregkarr09;2953319; said:
do you guys do water changes like every day???? I ask because I thought it is supposed to be once a week...
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Sorry, didn't see this till now. No, I don't do daily water changes. I didn't say it very clearly..what I meant was that's what I do on the days that I do water changes. Not that it would hurt to do daily water changes...I just choose not too...too much other stuff to do. :D

Finalfire9;2998538; said:
obvouisly what i was trying to say is beyond what you can comprehend Dmaan i probly just open a thread about this watts to oz's deal
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Well that was nice now wasn't it? :screwy:

However, in response to your posts...fish may survive but they definitely will not thrive in tanks where water changes are not performed. there are many factors that will come into play when considering how long the fish will survive...how stocked is the tank (overstocked/understocked/etc), how much filtration, how often are the fish fed etc. The more understocked and overfiltered, yes the longer the fish will survive...but again, the majority of us here aren't keeping fish to see them just survive...we want them to thrive. The cleaner the water, the more they will thrive...it's that simple. :)
 
Don't think I've ever had a cichlid regurgitate their meals due to a water change...or well anything. Once it's in their mouths, it ain't coming back! THat being said, I only feed in the morning and at night, so my water changes occur well before or after meals.
 
Finalfire9;2998342; said:
SO what im wondering since ive never done a water change how are all my fish still alive? i mean its been 5-6 some are 7 years old for ****s sake Do you guys really believe that your fish will die if you dont do a wc? Filter 20x+ and you wont have to do water changes

Like imagine a fx5 on a 10g tank with 5 guppys in it

would you ever do a water change if the water was crystal clear or would you just top off the water when it got low

heh just think about it

what im tryin to say is you can only get water so clear i engineer my own filters so maybe this is why i have such arrogance on this topic lol and firmly believe most otc filters they sell to aquarists are vastly underpowered
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youve never done a water change in 7 years? Interesting.


This is the first time ive heard the oz to watt thing. Not that Im a seasoned expert or anything. But from reading for a long while, ive never heard of this. explain more, or why you feel this way? Unless you were joking.
 
Finalfire9;2998364; said:
For the legal concept i think that filters when sold should be sold on there real wattage rating then gph

I think the weight of your fish is directly corrlated to how much wattage you need to filter your water i think its about 1 watt per oz of fish for reg stocking

If anybody has any thoughts on this concept let me know but please think before you type
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Wattage doesn't mean anything. GPH doesn't mean anything. The ability to host bacteria that metabolizes ammonia and nitrite is. Pretty sure you can build a 200w small chambered filter that can push 2000 GPH, but it's ability to do what a biological filter needs to do would be very low :P Just like in chemical and nuclear sciences, I would imagine the reaction cross section of the media (surface area) + volume of media + water flow rate + biological reaction rates are the key factors to a biological filter. Efficiency in power (directly propertional to flow rate) and in size (available biomedia surface area) are the main factors in modern filters.
 
I fed my fish the other day DURING a water change. I threw my Dovii an earthworm when the water was about 50% down and he wolfed it down.
 
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