Weird looking myleus wide bar

[.C.J.]

I recently bought this weird looking emperor blue hook, idk it kinda looks different from the other ebh that ive had before. Its dorsal fin is somewhat threadlike and it has red splatters on the side of its body. He kinda looks like a manuelli piranha to me ?

 

[GentleGiantsCichlidKeeper]

When looking online at Manueli Piranha the red color would usually be close to the eye. Here's some experienced fish keepers who may know!
duanes tlindsey kno4te Rocksor Gourami Swami

 

[.C.J.]

When looking online at Manueli Piranha the red color would usually be close to the eye. Here's some experienced fish keepers who may know!
duanes tlindsey kno4te Rocksor Gourami Swami

Hi yes im not saying that its a manueli, im just saying that it kinda reminds me of one when i look at it bc of the body shape. Sorry for my bad english thats probably why you misunderstood what i said. But anyway thank you for your reply

 

[FJB]

I am not seeing anything unusual -
You are showing two Myleus schomburgkii, a male and a female.
The one with the larger hook on the anal fin is a female, and she has some red spotting on the body The one with the bilobed anal fin (and no hook) is a male. His dorsal fin is thread-like some, which is not unusual. His anal fin is somewhat shredded, as if it has been nipped a bit by another fish, or if he may have been displaying and trying to breed with the female so much that his anal fin has become a little tattered. No big deal.
Nice, adult fish.
Their colors would deepen and show much nicer if you offered a dark background.
Beautiful fish!

 

[duanes]

Look like Myloplus shomburgkii to me, but I'm no expert on Characins, popular common names include Black banded Myleus, and Black eared pacu

 

[kno4te]

I’d go with what fjb and duanes said.

 

[.C.J.]

Thanks everyone for your replies

 

[FJB]

I have looked again at your fish, and wish to change my assessment -
I am not sure which of the two fish you were referring to, as "looking weird'. You did mention that you felt the red splotches didn't look like others you have seen.
The specimen with the long, red (black edged) hook in the anal fin, and the red splotches on the body, is not a female M. schomburgkii after all, but a female Myleus rubripinnis, aka, red hook silver dollar. I felt earlier it was a female M. schomburgkii, in error.
The male is a typical male M. schomburgkii, although that name is applied to what may be 2-3 (or more?) different taxa or varieties (wide bar, thin bar, blue hook).

Small red splotches on the sides of M. schomburgkii do occur, but are not that frequent. Large areas of red on the body (not as spots) are common when they are displaying. On the other hand, red spotting on M. rubripinnis is fairly standard for adult fish.
All together, and despite my previous statement, I believe you have a male and female of 2 different silver dollars. Again, very nice adult fish.

I believe K krichardson may be able to confirm this new id.

 

[flyingsaucer owner]

Yes a female red hook and male thin bar ??

 

[Rotaryp04s]

It kinda looks like the the blotches is 3D battle scars on your male wide bar.