What are your thoughts on fish like Pacu being sold
- Thread starter SwampFins
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There are other ways to fix problems. Creating laws and fees arent always the answer. You said it yourself you made a positive changes at your petco... no fees required. Maybe forums like this would be more effective. Instead of forcing people to abide by something people like you could just pass along your knowledge. As time goes on more lfs workers who think like you can make more of an impact that restrictions
Not a soap box man, just your opinion. Isnt that why the thread was started lol
So this guy should have to get a permit to keep fish larger than 2ft or just have to go through a big hassle to obtain the fish, but someone can pick up 10 oscars and cram them into what ever tank they have ???
If any of you can make this sound logical to me then i'll fold my cards and call it quits.
https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/new-600-gallon-pentair-fiberglass-build.715442/
If any of you can make this sound logical to me then i'll fold my cards and call it quits.
https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/new-600-gallon-pentair-fiberglass-build.715442/
For sure agreed, civil debates are more or less what forums are for. I enjoy debating things here, I think we should be able to express our opinions without getting too riled up.
My answer to this, would be don't leave everything broken, just because you can't fix 100% of the issues. If your car breaks down, you've got a blown transmission, and also the motor that brings your window up and down is also blown and the part is discontinued, can't get a new one. You can get a new transmission. Do you scrap the whole car because you can't get the window motor?
I get what your saying man but it doesnt explain why te guy with the 600 gal needs a permit to get the fish he wants when i can go out and by a bunch if o's and stick them in a 20 gal.
I have no facts to back this up but i would bet my lunch that pacu dont suffer as much as oscars. So if the lives of fish are top priority why stop at 2ft ? This doesnt work in a vacuum bro... it never does. Regardless of me being accused of passing along my ideology regulations hardly ever stay the course and almost always veer into areas that make us regret what we originally wanted.
I think that the point of laws like that coming in is because although many people have the morals, knowledge and love for animal and nature to do the right thing, many others just don't care about anything but their own satisfaction and entertainment. The only way to stop restrictive laws getting implemented is to get everyone to stop acting foolishly, destructively and cruelly to animals, nature and other people but we all know that's not going to happen, or the world would be heaven...
On the O's thing- I'd be down to pay $20 for an Oscar permit as well! Maybe I'm a bleeding heart liberal (consider myself a moderate tbh) but the animal welfare comes before most other concerns to me- certainly miles ahead of the shopping convenience of pet owners. 2' is kind of an arbitrary limit I thought of, because of the very negative reactions some people have to the idea of the permits at all. if the limit was 2', it would still let people buy small fish willy-nilly, and keep things like pacus out of the hands of casual impulse shoppers at Petco.
Basically, my opinion is this; there is a problem here. Large fish are far more often than not, neglected, and are very easily available. You can't educate everyone, and beyond that, you can't make everyone care. The information is all readily available; but the vast majority of people don't bother to look it up, and from working in fish stores for years, I can tell you that many people even after being educated, decide the fish's health is less important to them than their short-term amusement. I don't see a single way to stop this rampant neglect other than some sort of government intervention, requiring a permit or something similar. If there was another way, I'd be happy to hear it.
