I'd do 2-3 pumps with a return for each that way they aren't fighting each other and if one goes down you're not immediately screwed I'd also do submersible pump because any heat will go into the water and the water will help silence the pump
What do you think of this stocking long term?
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Yeah that makes more since. I didn’t want to go the plywood sump route as waterproofing isn’t cheap and at as small of a tank as a sump it would probably cheaper to just find a used 75 or 90 gallon tank but I will consider it.
But I probably will go the single water pump though it is hard to find a pump that pushes close to 4000gph at approximately 5’ head
But I probably will go the single water pump though it is hard to find a pump that pushes close to 4000gph at approximately 5’ head
Look into reef flo they are great. I've had a few of them and they are pretty good on energy too. But as
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says two or three does help to protect you incase one fails. I'm thinking of trying to get this syphon thing to work on my tank again if I do I'd like to up the flow maybe I'll look into a dart/snapper. I guess under full syphon you can just about double the normal gph that the same pipe can handle not syphon.
the other reason for multiple pumps would be you could have multiple returns in different areas of the tank
This is true. You could also put multiple returns off of 1 pump too. With the gph you are looking for you could have 4 returns putting out around 1000 gph each or more with a manifold. Basically you have a bigger pipe like on a pump designed with that much gph it's probably going to be 1.5" take that to a horizantal run with as many "T's" as you want returns or feeds and cap the end of the 1.5" pipe off. The "T's" you'll want smaller diameter feeds like say 3/4" to keep pressure up. You put ball valves in at the "manifold" to shut off flow to a certain area or whatever if needed without killing flow for everything. As I stated earlier I had salt tanks in 2 different rooms and a breeding rack in the sump room and 2 300g stock tanks, sump, refugium, skimmer, dsb, settling chamber, bio pellet reactor, if it wasn't gravity fed or didn't have its own pump it ran off a manifold from a larger pump.
So I remember for a fact that both tanks up stairs and 1 of the 300g ran off one pump, each "tank" had at least 2 returns pumping a gestimate of 800-1000gph per return. Those were run off of a reefflo barracuda I think its around 5000gph at 10' of head. I also had vortechs in both reefs too. But it was plenty of flow coming out of the returns. Lots of ways to do things. I had that same pump fail and that was not a good couple of days, they covered it and got it going again. If I'd had a few pumps running at the time would have been easier but probably double the electric use at least.
I know with that much crap going on you'd think what's another pump going to matter but you start looking at the electric bill and you're like wow I need to cut this a bit. Originally I had 3 pumps running for returns to those same tanks mag drives, I think 18s. That was over 600w. With the barracuda it cut it in half. I think running full on it was 360w and I had more flow too.
See that’s one of the problems I figured I would run into as well with getting a full siphon. Plus once you have a full siphon going the tank is more protected during outages right?
If I can find a single pump for the right price that’s probably the route I’ll go.
What overflows are you guys using?
If I can find a single pump for the right price that’s probably the route I’ll go.
What overflows are you guys using?
Food for thought multiple pumps allows for some redundancy. One burns out atleast you still have one going...or two depending on how many dedicated returns.
Full siphon just allows water to move at a highet gph and is silent (big plus). I would plan on adding dry/e drains. That woukd give you a bit of safety incase the main/siphons become clogged.
I would figure out what type of plumbing method you want to go with 1st. I like herbie but from what ive read beananimal is great as well
Full siphon just allows water to move at a highet gph and is silent (big plus). I would plan on adding dry/e drains. That woukd give you a bit of safety incase the main/siphons become clogged.
I would figure out what type of plumbing method you want to go with 1st. I like herbie but from what ive read beananimal is great as well
You know I’ve never heard of running a dry drain.
I need to do more research on the two. (Herbie and beananimal) I’ve researched them in the past but I’ve never applied them and theres not a lot of good tutorials that I’ve found online.
I need to do more research on the two. (Herbie and beananimal) I’ve researched them in the past but I’ve never applied them and theres not a lot of good tutorials that I’ve found online.
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P.s. Following your thread. Please share any build tutorials you like. I’m trying to learn more about builds myself.
