What does freedom mean to Americans?

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Spankbelly;1891911; said:
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That is the thread. What is the nature of freedom in America?
Why is it wrong to discuss that?

Is it my fault I, a foreign citizen, seem to have more to say about the topic than you?
Even if based in fiction. Even if I took the Devils hand, just to give others a chance to argue against me. So they might hone their view and see it evermore clear. As you said in your first line.

Where have you been till now, to defend your country, while I slander it's good name?
All this time you remained silent. While I lie and cheat and sully.
Only now you spring forth the Hero to wrench your flag from mud.

Or...could it be...you did nothing to defend the name of that land you now claim with love...and only now that I revile my secret and brand you lax, you take action.
Could be you did nothing to dispute my fiction. Till target changed from supposed beloved nation, to you.
Any too lazy to mouse click and deny a lie of false propaganda.
Maybe not.
But seems so.
Seems you sprang forth quick at moment of reveal.
Seems you were forced to haughty action to defend not your countries name, but your own.
Seems you have your panties twisted whilst caught with your britches down.
Yes.
Seems so.
Seems odd time to now play Righteous Hero, who defends repute his own.



As for Blah and blah and blah blah blah....blah?

Refer to same posts past, whence fueled personal indignation.

All was false and exaggeration.

Purposed to test basic skill of truth.

Long ago, you little hero,

FAILED!

well, the thread isnt "what is the nature of freedom in America?" it is "what does freedom mean to americans"..
you are not american, nobody really asked you.
lmfao, you are just ridiculous.. "wrench my flag from the mud", "little hero"? i havnt said anything till now because i didnt think it was worth it.. which it apparantly still isnt. like i said, i dont think i need to defend my country's reputation to people like you, and i don't feel obliged to. i think this is actually one of americas problems, feeling like we need to explain to everyone and be everyones friends.
NOPE, we certainly dont.
i responded because i feel that you are trying to push peoples buttons.
again, what are you trying to prove? what is your point exactly? you are just endlessly debating with citizens of america to try and prove you know more about our own government than we do?
really, you aren't as smart as you think you are. you probably dont get far in the real world with that attitude doubled with your obvious immaturity.
the point is, youve never been to america. your views are clearly opinion-based. you are giving bits and pieces of a big picture to try and prove people wrong and make people look stupid/make yourself look smart.

it's clear other countries are the ones that are brainwashed against us.
we aren't the brainwashed ones.
and that is my point.

im done, lol. stupid, pointless, endless, nowhere-going, opinion-based "debate".

think what you want about america, i couldnt really care less.. you dont really matter here when it comes down to it.
 
easydoesit;1892142; said:
well, the thread isnt "what is the nature of freedom in America?" it is "what does freedom mean to americans"..
you are not american, nobody really asked you.
lmfao, you are just ridiculous.. "wrench my flag from the mud", "little hero"? i havnt said anything till now because i didnt think it was worth it.. which it apparantly still isnt. like i said, i dont think i need to defend my country's reputation to people like you, and i don't feel obliged to. i think this is actually one of americas problems, feeling like we need to explain to everyone and be everyones friends.
NOPE, we certainly dont.
i responded because i feel that you are trying to push peoples buttons.
again, what are you trying to prove? what is your point exactly? you are just endlessly debating with citizens of america to try and prove you know more about our own government than we do?
really, you aren't as smart as you think you are. you probably dont get far in the real world with that attitude doubled with your obvious immaturity.
the point is, youve never been to america. your views are clearly opinion-based. you are giving bits and pieces of a big picture to try and prove people wrong and make people look stupid/make yourself look smart.

it's clear other countries are the ones that are brainwashed against us.
we aren't the brainwashed ones.
and that is my point.

im done, lol. stupid, pointless, endless, nowhere-going, opinion-based "debate".

think what you want about america, i couldnt really care less.. you dont really matter here when it comes down to it.





NO NO NO No NO NO.
Look. I know that I sometimes, maybe a little little bit, push buttons.
But then again, your buttons are so easily pushed.
I know that I am ineligible to play on your side of the fence.
I know I know almost nothing about your country.
I know what I know is based in rumor, gossip, jealousy, insecurity, lies and propaganda.

I boast no special insight (maybe incite) or knowledge of your people.


I am simply reminding you all to check the facts.
That is all.
Especially when you are talking about rights and freedoms and the direction of your countries future.
I think that is an important thing.
And non of you did it.
I think you know you should have.
I think you know you didn't.
And now you are angry at yourself for it.
But rather than admit it, you want to keep fighting with me even after I say the fight never was.

Go to your room and think about your behavior.

In all this time the only ones to offer true, provable, undebatable, undeniable, simple basic fact were Semperfish and TY1089

I don't want to continue this either.
I was tired of it long ago.
I didn't think it would go on as long as it did.
I thought yeah, they are Americans, but they can't be that cliche.
I thought someone, anyone, would check the facts and shut me down.
Then I'd say "Yep, good for you. See the importance of fact and truth?"
That would be the end of it.
How could I know it would continue this long? And grow beyond the bounds of original intent.


By the way, whomever sent that virus to erase my dictionary...that was pretty funny.
Very funny.
Yankee Pig Dog!

I just hope that in the future you use such books of knowledge for your benefit.

Peace, you Son's of Motherless Goats!
 
Spankbelly;1893198; said:
NO NO NO No NO NO.
Look. I know that I sometimes, maybe a little little bit, push buttons.
But then again, your buttons are so easily pushed.
I know that I am ineligible to play on your side of the fence.
I know I know almost nothing about your country.
I know what I know is based in rumor, gossip, jealousy, insecurity, lies and propaganda.

I boast no special insight (maybe incite) or knowledge of your people.


I am simply reminding you all to check the facts.
That is all.
Especially when you are talking about rights and freedoms and the direction of your countries future.
I think that is an important thing.
And non of you did it.
I think you know you should have.
I think you know you didn't.
And now you are angry at yourself for it.
But rather than admit it, you want to keep fighting with me even after I say the fight never was.

Go to your room and think about your behavior.

In all this time the only ones to offer true, provable, undebatable, undeniable, simple basic fact were Semperfish and TY1089

I don't want to continue this either.
I was tired of it long ago.
I didn't think it would go on as long as it did.
I thought yeah, they are Americans, but they can't be that cliche.
I thought someone, anyone, would check the facts and shut me down.
Then I'd say "Yep, good for you. See the importance of fact and truth?"
That would be the end of it.
How could I know it would continue this long? And grow beyond the bounds of original intent.


By the way, whomever sent that virus to erase my dictionary...that was pretty funny.
Very funny.
Yankee Pig Dog!

I just hope that in the future you use such books of knowledge for your benefit.

Peace, you Son's of Motherless Goats!


Lol, so the moral of the story is:

Americans (and I of course just mean those who live in the United States of America) are dumb, and never trust a Canadian. :ROFL:
 
lol spank, you are just as cliche to me as i am to you.
and im not angry at myself for anything really.. cept for the fact that i just broke a nail.

i know this isnt really what this whole thing was about, but since you say it is and nobody can "prove you wrong"..(this whole thing started bc you thought it wasnt right that americans called themselves americans. you stated that that isnt the correct term to refer to ourselves as, then you figured out that indeed it was. you felt stupid so you had to argue and try to find another point to all of this and pretend you knew all along, and another reason why you dislike america came to mind and it fit almost perfectly).. but like i said, i cant prove you wrong here so i know youll stick with the "my whole point all along was that america should know the facts" thing....
i do think americans should be more aware of the government. i just turned 18 and i can vote this term, so im researching a lot of things right now and learning all that i can in preperation to vote and just to learn more about our country and to be aware of whats going on. before this year really, i never gave a rats *** about our government, just thought they were screwing me and my family and families like ours. i think the people who dont bring in a lot of money are paying too many taxes and for that i do feel screwed b/c we know that there are big corporate companies not getting taxed. anyways..
there are a lot of people who know all about the government here in america. maybe a fish forum wasnt the best place to ask your questions, state your biased opinions, and host your half complete/BS-based evidence on how americans dont know their government and are fed so much propaganda that theyre brainwashed.

i dont know why you care so much anyways? why is it like.. your mission to make americans "know the facts"?
it's just weird
:screwy:
 
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