The pictures I provided are of the cf winemiller from the Caqueta region - cf winemilleri was an abitrary name chosen by wetspot. That is the only species mentioned in this thread and they are not the same as your fish thuogh you might have the '#2' version.btw - you mentioned another G. spec Caqueta in your original post - I assume you mean this Geophagus species? They share the tank with G. spec Caqueta II)
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What kind of geophagus is this ?
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sorry, i was referring to your post from sept 3rd (my fault) in which you mentioned another species from the Caqueta region with a different pattern. i was just curious if it was the species on my four additonal photos you were talking about. sorry, it doesn't matter...
"As for the name they chose (cf winemilleri); they had posted a picture on their facebook page and a geo expert contact them and note they were clearly not winemilleri having a 5th stripe but were likely very simlar. They had not ordered this fish but another known as geo cf Caqueta which has a clearly different pattern of stripes."
Yes the sept 3 post was additional information I obtained from them about the fish from the Caqueta region which was named cf winemilleri.sorry, i was referring to your post from sept 3rd (my fault) in which you mentioned another species from the Caqueta region with a different pattern. i was just curious if it was the species on my four additonal photos you were talking about. sorry, it doesn't matter...
"As for the name they chose (cf winemilleri); they had posted a picture on their facebook page and a geo expert contact them and note they were clearly not winemilleri having a 5th stripe but were likely very simlar. They had not ordered this fish but another known as geo cf Caqueta which has a clearly different pattern of stripes."
They dont' actually know where this fish was found but the exportered indicated it was from Caqueta region; it does beg the question how many different species are out there or if this is related to any known species.
Since I have no clue on the final size and presume it is around 8 to 12 inches they might change further but i've not seen any species with similar looks so far.
yes, it is a pity that catching locations often are either kept secret by the fishermen or are not recorded by the exporter. That makes things sooo unnecessarily complicated. I also asked at Aquarium Glaser in germany (the importer and wholesaler) where this second spec Caqueta was found - but the results was the same like of your attempt to find out more at wetspot. I also asked other importers in germany if they ever had received such fishes from the Caqueta area - but nothing... nada...
Well, at least the question regarding the relationship with other geophagus will be answered. I took fin clips of spec. Caqueta and spec. Caqueta II and send them to a friend for DNA analyses this week. It might take until the end of 2026, but at least we can be sure that this new Geophagus will be mentioned in the book Jens Gottwald is working at
you are right - there is really no geophagus looking like ours (i believe they are the same, just different ages)
Yea i was told by someone who goes to sa frequently to catch fishes that fisherman consider others competitors so they make a point of keeping catch locations secret. Even researchers which have mapped many species won't release this information in respect to their guides but they do have maps at least for some groups of their locations.yes, it is a pity that catching locations often are either kept secret by the fishermen or are not recorded by the exporter. That makes things sooo unnecessarily complicated. I also asked at Aquarium Glaser in germany (the importer and wholesaler) where this second spec Caqueta was found - but the results was the same like of your attempt to find out more at wetspot. I also asked other importers in germany if they ever had received such fishes from the Caqueta area - but nothing... nada...
Well, at least the question regarding the relationship with other geophagus will be answered. I took fin clips of spec. Caqueta and spec. Caqueta II and send them to a friend for DNA analyses this week. It might take until the end of 2026, but at least we can be sure that this new Geophagus will be mentioned in the book Jens Gottwald is working at
you are right - there is really no geophagus looking like ours (i believe they are the same, just different ages)
How large are yours - you said you think they are the same species but they should have long filament if they are over 4 inches.
regarding the catching locations: at least for scientific papers the exact data have to be deposited.
When i was travelling in SA for each fishing spot we recorded the GPS data, fotos of the location and water parameters - that's how research should work... But of course i can understand fishermen keeping "their" places secret since many of them need the money for the fishes they catch. And most really earn just a few cents for fishes we pay hundreds of euro/dollars for. it is complicated... mine are about 3-3,5 inch, and i think the problem is that they were kept in the traders facility for some month at low temperatures 24 °C and very hard water (the trader sells maaaany malawi and tanganjika cichlids and just starts the business with SA cichlids). I think the filaments will grow quickly as soon as the fishes are kept warm and under more appropiate water conditions.
I received mine on feb 21 and after a little more than 2 weeks with warm water, less stress and lots of good food they spawned... lol I'm convinced they'll reach 8-9 inches after 2 or 3 years, hopefully. And if not, as long as they stay so beautiful i do not complain
