What kind of Texas need ID

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This is the problem w/ common names...it leads to confusion.
They are two different sp. Why call them the same name? People buy one sp. thinking they are getting another.


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This stuff is why common and trade names suck. That fish looks to be an everyday normal carpinits and stick to that. Too many closely related hericthys to judge by vague trade names. Green texas is usually assosciated with carpintis though. Looks male

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floydlevi said:
Is it normal for a carpinte's spots to be really faded, almost not visible?
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No, not really.

cichlidfish said:
This is the problem w/ common names...it leads to confusion.
They are two different sp. Why call them the same name? People buy one sp. thinking they are getting another.


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The truth is that 'texas' refers to Herichthys cyanoguttatum specifically, and 'green texas' refers to Herichthys carpintis specifically. However some fish keepers refuse to assign the correct common name to the correct species and utilize 'texas' for both species, and even other similar species such as Herichthys minckleyi simply because to them 'common names aren't that important anyways, who cares' - which leads to amateurs buying different species of fish and hybridizing them together because they think they're the same species.

In my opinion I find it really strange that anyone would not care, especially when the names have been applied so specifically to each species. I mean we all assume a red devil refers to an Amphilophus labiatus, a midas refers to an Amphilophus citrinellum, a Jack Dempsey is a Rocio octofasciata, a firemouth is a Thorichthys ellioti, a Convict is an Amatitlania nigrofasciata, etc. etc., so common names are valid (as after all there are few and far who would say, refer to a firemouth as a red devil, for example).

Annyyyywaaayysss yeah texas refers to H. cyanogutattum and green texas refers to H. carpintis. A bit of research after I got my first super green texas and I found this out easily.

Also blue texas is the worst name ever, it is used as a designation for any Herichthys that is blue.

Red texas is a hybrid of a cyano or carp (or both) that is red in color.
 
Other than the one on the tail, her spots barely show up. they're overrun by all her gorgeous blue.
Yea she does, she's laid eggs 3 times now. I got her another carpintis to try and breed but she's only interested in my oscar.
 
Firemouth = T meeki or ellioti or affinus?
Green Texas=ridiculous/not from anywhere near Texas
red Terror= C festae or C uropthalmus
pearl cichlid= Geophagus braziliensus or G surinensus or in some places H cyanoguttatus
convict= A siquia, or nigrofaciata, or chetumalensus?
red head= synspillum or bifasciatum or ?
someone buys some red heads or Texans or, .... then thinking they are the same, they breed, and the mutts are taken to stores.
I'm sorry but to me, common names are bull...
 
Firemouth = Thorichthys meeki. Ellioti = Thorichthys ellioti. Affinis = Thorichthys affinis. Basically all other Thorichthys species besides T. meeki uses a different name than the second half of their species name.
Green Texas = Herichthys carpintis. Just because it has 'texas' in it doesn't mean that it has to be from Texas.
Red Terror = Cichlasoma festae. Mayan = Cichlasoma urophthalmum.
Pearl Cichlid = Geophagus braziliensis. Red Striped Earth Eater = G. surinamensis. Rarely is Herichthys cyanoguttatum called a pearl cichlid - actually to be honest I've never actually seen anyone call it that. Texas is what they've always called it. I've *heard* that it may sometimes be called a pearl cichlid by some people, but never had that problem.
Convict = Amatitlania nigrofasciata. I've never seen the name given to the other species.
Red Head Cichlid = Paratheraps synspilum. I've only known Paratheraps Bifasciatus to simply be called 'Bifa'.

Yes eventually some random person out there would confuse the name (whether unknowingly or intentionally), but overall it's pretty good. And it happens with scientific names as well.

Or maybe it's just because here in Australia it's quite straight forward, where pretty much everyone know the common names for all cichlids very well. XD Maybe it's not so simple elsewhere. But meh, I personally don't have problems with common names, so yeah.
 
I think a lot of mislabeled fish varies by location and the degree of knowledge from the source where the fish are purchased. I personally have seen some of the common name examples given by Duanes. I've seen the name Pearl Cichlid as well as other nicknames used to describe both Cyano and Carpintis interchangeably. The same thing goes for Red Terror as it relates to Festae and Mayan Cichlids (Search the site and you will find many examples of this.) Then there are names that individual shops and breeders give to species to add appeal to their stock which makes things even more confusing when purchasing fish under common names. I prefer Scientific names over common ones. Reputable vendors and hobbyists know these names so there is little room for mistakes due to names that can vary from one location to the next. But I do agree that mistakes still occur under scientific names. I still think that using those terms limit the amount of mistakes that comes with using common names.
 
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