Centrals american cichlids definately. I say go for a 1000gal and up concrete tank with 2 acrylic veiwing windows. For filtration get a huge wet/dry system setup with tons of bioballs and pot scrubbies. Also you may want to put in large amounts of foam blocks for the last mechanical stage. I would imagine 2- 150g Tall would do for 2 wet/drys. As for stocking you want to go with a theme with a tank that size such as Peacock Bass and red tail cats or shovel nose cats. You shouldn't really do a couple of each fish and then just load it up with them. I would say keep the cichlids in a three family format( Parachromis, Amphilophus, Herichthys, etc.etc) Then choose bottom dwellers and then a large group of schooling fish such as Silver dollars. IMO this looks optimal in large aquariums because they're isn't soo much distraction on different fish. An aquariums is supposed to be relaxing and enjoyable not ok color, brightness, fast fish and fighting all over. If you add to many cichlids it's just going to be chaos. Especially with less aggressive cichlids or rays with big mean FH and Guapote. Find a new stocking plan but keep it to a minimal and find certain species that will do good with each other.
what kinda tank or indoor pond would i need for
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Cross127;1045282; said:
thats a mouthful ...........WOW.......right on
should I attach to existing wall or built another wall against the in the basement ?
Oh I don't like short tanks, was thinking platform of some kind to raise viewing window?
I suggest you change that too a FL gar or smaller species it would work best in a 16ft Diameter pond but IMO
I would do a biiig like 14x8x3 tank. Jag pair, Dovii pair, 5 Lima, 1 TSN, 1 FL gar and 2 Pair Azul Pbass.
I would do a biiig like 14x8x3 tank. Jag pair, Dovii pair, 5 Lima, 1 TSN, 1 FL gar and 2 Pair Azul Pbass.
depends on basement costs to construct. build materials.
filtering is big project on it's own.
Anyone have poured concrete walls or does everyone go with cinderblocks?
which is better???????????????
rebar ? both kinds of wall or just poured walls ?
another issue my ceiling is less 8' tall.
filtering is big project on it's own.
Anyone have poured concrete walls or does everyone go with cinderblocks?
which is better???????????????
rebar ? both kinds of wall or just poured walls ?
another issue my ceiling is less 8' tall.
The cons and Firemouths would become food for the lung, and as it grows so would probably the JD's.
fish are second to tank. need to build then after measuring finished tank,
then figure out fish do's and don'ts.
most the fish list was me and convict breeder chatting/dreaming.
the list was some of our fav fishz.
then figure out fish do's and don'ts.
most the fish list was me and convict breeder chatting/dreaming.
the list was some of our fav fishz.
An indoor pond would be a cool idea, but a tank would be better. A viewing window allows for the best interaction with your fish (unless you actually get into the pond 
) The problem is this, a pond will be easier and more affordable to make large, because you aren't dealing with glass or acrylic, so sealing isn't a huge concern. But then, you won't be able to view or take pics of your fish as easily. A concrete tank would be sweet, but expensive (I would think). And because of the cost you won't be able to make a tank as large as a pond.
I've heard that cinder blocks crack sometimes because they are so rigid. You never know how much they have actually been handled, but people do use them.
Why not try a plywood tank? You might be able to afford glass panes if you don't spend that money on the concrete. How large is your basement? What kind of dimensions are you thinking about? 8x2, 10x3? Larger? Smaller? Of course for filtration, a wet/dry sump will be the most efficient, and with a tank of this size, you might want to start thinking about a drip system as well. Just a few things to get your minds rolling in the right direction. Good luck.
) The problem is this, a pond will be easier and more affordable to make large, because you aren't dealing with glass or acrylic, so sealing isn't a huge concern. But then, you won't be able to view or take pics of your fish as easily. A concrete tank would be sweet, but expensive (I would think). And because of the cost you won't be able to make a tank as large as a pond. I've heard that cinder blocks crack sometimes because they are so rigid. You never know how much they have actually been handled, but people do use them.
Why not try a plywood tank? You might be able to afford glass panes if you don't spend that money on the concrete. How large is your basement? What kind of dimensions are you thinking about? 8x2, 10x3? Larger? Smaller? Of course for filtration, a wet/dry sump will be the most efficient, and with a tank of this size, you might want to start thinking about a drip system as well. Just a few things to get your minds rolling in the right direction.
Good luck.Concrete is just as expensive as buying wood framing material. Also you would need more wood than concrete. When pouring concrete (obviously mixing it up before dumping) it should be poured into wood forms that are clamped and bolted together. As for the building on the existing wall I don't think is a good idea. As you know the foundation was made out of concrete or full blocks of concrete and then semented together, this may cause problems for the tank because the concrete will not keep out all the elements in the ground which will leak out into the liner of the tank. This will cause all sorts of yucky build up and just be a mess. This only will happen if you don't seal the wall completely. If you seal it right then you could build on the existing wall. Wood frames for a tank that size will hold up long, but no where near as long as the concrete. Ok for a tank that big I say go for a nice 12'x4'x4' footprint. Wider if your planning on larger catfish goin in. For a drip system, hook up the thing to a laundry machine water outlet and drain. This is going to be great for you guys to build excited can't wait for the build. Any questions just ask. I'll be glad to help you out!
thank you BIGxEchOx;1046137; said:An indoor pond would be a cool idea, but a tank would be better. A viewing window allows for the best interaction with your fish (unless you actually get into the pond
I've heard that cinder blocks crack sometimes because they are so rigid. You never know how much they have actually been handled, but people do use them. good info
Why not try a plywood tank? You might be able to afford glass panes if you don't spend that money on the concrete. How large is your basement? What kind of dimensions are you thinking about? 8x2, 10x3? Larger? Smaller? Of course for filtration, a wet/dry sump will be the most efficient, and with a tank of this size, you might want to start thinking about a drip system as well. Just a few things to get your minds rolling in the right direction.
Maybe cinderblock stand with plywood tank (large) on top.
wider than deap........shorter thinner glass veiw window? cheaper ?
ThxCross127;1046212; said:Concrete is just as expensive as buying wood framing material. Also you would need more wood than concrete. need wood frame for concrete too.When pouring concrete (obviously mixing it up before dumping) it should be poured into wood forms that are clamped and bolted together. As for the building on the existing wall I don't think is a good idea. agreeAs you know the foundation was made out of concrete or full blocks of concrete and then semented together, this may cause problems for the tank because the concrete will not keep out all the elements in the ground which will leak out into the liner of the tank. badThis will cause all sorts of yucky build up and just be a mess. This only will happen if you don't seal the wall completely. If you seal it right then you could build on the existing wall. Wood frames for a tank that size will hold up long, but no where near as long as the concrete. hmmm Ok for a tank that big I say go for a nice 12'x4'x4' footprint. Wider if your planning on larger catfish goin in. For a drip system, hook up the thing to a laundry machine water outlet and drain. I have one right their too..This is going to be great for you guys to build excited can't wait for the build. Any questions just ask. I'll be glad to help you out!
