what lizard in a 12x12?

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ScatMan;4388881; said:
caiman lizards are about $1,000+. how would you contain it??? anything you put in there would need a TIGHT enclosure.

how about an alligator-snapping turtle, water monitor or australian water dragons (they're closer to your budget)? all but the snapper will need a good portion of land too. BE CAREFUL: all these larger reptiles can be very dangerous.

water monitors can be rescued for cheap or free, check craigslist, petfinder or even your aspca.

caiman lizrds are routinely seen for sale between 5 and 7 hundred now and captive bred or farm bred are also available. I would say to avoid an ally snapper until you are able to lift a 150lbs turtle on your own to move it for maintenance. Water monitors are also ver tricky since the grow to be HUGE and are not always nice (mine hates me despite routine handling and proper taming techniques). A water dragon might work but from what I understand they are mostly land animals- I know that all of these would need some land but I think a water dragon (and water monitor for that mater) would need 85% land.

I still think a caiman lizard would work great so long as you convert about half of the pond into dry area and secure the top.
 
Zfishies;4388664; said:
ya i think ill go for one of those guys!:headbang2 just idk where to get them ill check my LFS

:eek: maybe when am older ill get one, i really like those guys and i wouldt handle it without my dad, though and i would use tongs not my hands lol why would you use you hand?

here are some links for you:
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http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=34&de=796404

and avoid this vendor but here is a link anyways:
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"*****caiman lizards are about $1,000+. how would you contain it??? anything you put in there would need a TIGHT enclosure.

how about an alligator-snapping turtle, water monitor or australian water dragons (they're closer to your budget)? all but the snapper will need a good portion of land too. BE CAREFUL: all these larger reptiles can be very dangerous.

water monitors can be rescued for cheap or free, check craigslist, petfinder or even your aspca.****"ohh i didnt know that^ i will deff check my aspca though. and like i said before i will only handle them when a adult is around. i have a snapping turtle already heh. and water monitors somewhat look like caiman lizards... does this method work with all reptiles? you put a sheet over there eyes (black sheet) and then go for them?
 
snakeguy101;4388934; said:
caiman lizrds are routinely seen for sale between 5 and 7 hundred now and captive bred or farm bred are also available. I would say to avoid an ally snapper until you are able to lift a 150lbs turtle on your own to move it for maintenance. Water monitors are also ver tricky since the grow to be HUGE and are not always nice (mine hates me despite routine handling and proper taming techniques). A water dragon might work but from what I understand they are mostly land animals- I know that all of these would need some land but I think a water dragon (and water monitor for that mater) would need 85% land.

I still think a caiman lizard would work great so long as you convert about half of the pond into dry area and secure the top.
didnt read your post's. like i said i wont be handling anyof these guys alone as i had a bad experience with a fly river turtle

snakeguy101;4388940; said:
thanks ill check them out
 
snakeguy101;4388934; said:
caiman lizrds are routinely seen for sale between 5 and 7 hundred now and captive bred or farm bred are also available.

awesome! that's good to know, i wanted to get a pair a while back and am now thinking about it again. still a bit over op's $200 budget...

i feel like an ass mentioning this to a minor but, what about an anaconda, with the obvious precautions?

...yeah i know it's not a lizard. ;)
 
ScatMan;4389050; said:
i feel like an ass mentioning this to a minor but, what about an anaconda, with the obvious precautions?
as long as its a male, he's done his research, and can properly care for it, i see no problem with it. (then again i'm 13 too...) but reptile keeping depends on 3 things, and none of them are age.
1) responsibility
2)pysical ability (if with larger animals, with smaller ones, this doesnt matter as much)
3) experience. i myself have been involved with reptiles since i was 4, and have been handling them since i was 5. at 13, i've handled a 12 foot green anaconda before, along with various pythons and boas, the biggest of which was a 16 foot reticulated python.

as long as the proper safety precautions are taken, such as having a second (or third) person there, i see no problem with owning a large snake at a younger age. the only reason i dont have a yellow anaconda is that i dont have the space for it (in my mom's opinion)
 
I definitely think if you want to go lizard caiman lizard is really the only suitable choice. Most of the "semi-aquatic" lizards really aren't that aquatic at all (water dragons, nile, water, and mangrove monitors etc), and dward caiman are maybe the least aquatic crocs. I would definitely plan out how you're going to create a sizable land area beforehand.
 
CTU2fan;4390524; said:
I definitely think if you want to go lizard caiman lizard is really the only suitable choice. Most of the "semi-aquatic" lizards really aren't that aquatic at all (water dragons, nile, water, and mangrove monitors etc), and dward caiman are maybe the least aquatic crocs. I would definitely plan out how you're going to create a sizable land area beforehand.
:iagree:
 
That's what am trying to do I think am
Going to have to make a platform out of wood maybe a 12x8 i have some of those At my dads work. I don't think an anaconda will work out =[ my mom doesn't like snakes... But she will let me keep an XL lizards:screwy:
 
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