What would you consider this fish?

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i still think its a zz x parrot
 
you could say that but the fry from the fish would be very unstable. 2/3 generations i'd call it a kamfa
 
when do flowerhorn fish fade or peel?

Any time of their life but with the ones ive had mostly between 2.5"-5". They don't always fade right away though sometime it takes a while.
 
I'd call it a ZZkamfa...not quite Kamfa yet. Even though you may consider this fish to be a Kamfa, but keep in mind that you can only really claim such by what its criteria are. You can cross a ZZ x Parrot or ZZ x Kamfa, and a whole variety will be thrown out. Some will be Kamfa, ZZkamfa, and even straight up looking ZZ with yellow/orange/white eyes. Anything cross with a parrot is the Thai standard for creating a Kamfa. But that doesn't mean it's going to be a Kamfa...:)
 
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