whats better for sex? turtle breeding....

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wow the title to this thread did not sound at all right......

has this cross been tried before? I am not great on turtles but thought musks where quite a bit smaller that RES which might bring up some complications. also not sure how similar they are.... usually the more similar two species are the easier it will be to cross them
 
I agree with Sylvias on both things. Title needed to be thought out a bit more, and I think these two turtle are too different to interbreed.

Do you know of this ever happening, or are you just giving it a shot to see if it works?
 
Sorry! Ment Map turtle! Played basketball right before I posted this so I was kinda rushing. I know Maps and RES have been breed before. I might throw in a male musk or female depending on the sex of RES. Any reports of painted turtles also breeding with RES?
 
Time for a quick lesson in phylogenetics:

The red-eared slider (Trachemys scripta elegans), map turtles (Graptemys spp.), and painted turtle (Chrysemys picta) all belong to different genera and are part of the Deirochelyinae subfamily of the Emydidae family. The musk turtles (Sternotherus spp.) are part of the Kinosterninae subfamily of the Kinosternidae family.

For starters, these two families are very distantly related with the closest connection to the two being all the way back at the Eucryptodira infraorder. This means that the musk turtle definitely will not be able to successfully breed with any of those turtles. As for the other three turtles, the likelihood of them successfully breeding and producing viable offspring is extremely slim considering the fact that they are of separate genera. There may be previous cases of hybridization between them, but those are few and far between.

All in all, if you really want a hybrid turtle, try getting two turtles of the same genera and opposite gender to mate. Otherwise, don't expect to get any viable offspring from these turtles (although it is possible with some crosses).
 
Thanks for the awesome post! Am going to do some research and see what genra RES are in and from there see what I can try to breed with. Lots of mfk'ers I've spoken to said that there maps and res tried to breed when they kept them together. Maybe I'll try to down the line later on. And rud yes it is :)
 
Wiggles92;5069332; said:
Time for a quick lesson in phylogenetics:

The red-eared slider (Trachemys scripta elegans), map turtles (Graptemys spp.), and painted turtle (Chrysemys picta) all belong to different genera and are part of the Deirochelyinae subfamily of the Emydidae family. The musk turtles (Sternotherus spp.) are part of the Kinosterninae subfamily of the Kinosternidae family.

For starters, these two families are very distantly related with the closest connection to the two being all the way back at the Eucryptodira infraorder. This means that the musk turtle definitely will not be able to successfully breed with any of those turtles. As for the other three turtles, the likelihood of them successfully breeding and producing viable offspring is extremely slim considering the fact that they are of separate genera. There may be previous cases of hybridization between them, but those are few and far between.

All in all, if you really want a hybrid turtle, try getting two turtles of the same genera and opposite gender to mate. Otherwise, don't expect to get any viable offspring from these turtles (although it is possible with some crosses).
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Red eared sliders and map turtles have been successfully cross bred though.
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No matter what science tells us Mother Nature always throws in a suprise every now and then. Just like komodos laying eggs with no males and the eggs hatched.
 
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