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[fugupuff]

even though there is a product out there to let you be able to do this, how can we know that this isnt a long term harmful thing? i mean being able to have saltwater fish and freshwater fish in the same tank only by adding some liquid you dont really know what is in it? come on now that cant be good. it says "by adding electrolyte to the water", basically tells me i can add a $hit load of gatorade to my tank and then be able to get a polypterus for my marine tank. i still dont agree with this being perfectly fine for the fish's health. someone get a tank up use this stuff, have two community fish(one from FW and one from SW) that have a life span of 15+ years and update a post in here with pictures and video of these fish thriving in 13-15 years. then i will go and get this product so i can have the tank of my dreams

show me any fish that you or anyone has kept for 15 years

 

[SalmonAfrica]

show me any fish that you or anyone has kept for 15 years

Easy. Almost any of the main display fish at any public aquarium anywhere in the world. Those fish are kept in captive conditions closest as to how you'd find them in nature, and they live for extremely long periods of time, not to mention get to either full size or something close to it.

Just because public aquariums are the only examples I can provide, it doesn't mean the average aquarist cannot achieve the same. I had a Kuhli loach, Pangio kuhli, which lived for 10 years.

 

[SimonL]

show me any fish that you or anyone has kept for 15 years

I've got a gar and bichir for 10...perhaps you should ask ArapaimaG, it's hard to find something he hasn't had for 15 years lol.

This is an interesting moral debate...much as we complain about keeping fish in "unnatural" conditions, the very concept of an aquarium is unnatural. Unless your fish breed, you are failing to provide what they need, regardless of how "well cared for" or long lived they are.

Remember, no matter how well cared for our fish are, we are still cramming them into tiny glass boxes for our own personal amusement.

 

[poly-nomial]

That's weird, yet cruel, yet interesting yet cool.

 

[david17]

now im looking at my clownfish thinking if you dont start playing with your anemone you will live with the arowanas.

 

[fugupuff]

I've got a gar and bichir for 10...perhaps you should ask ArapaimaG, it's hard to find something he hasn't had for 15 years lol.

This is an interesting moral debate...much as we complain about keeping fish in "unnatural" conditions, the very concept of an aquarium is unnatural. Unless your fish breed, you are failing to provide what they need, regardless of how "well cared for" or long lived they are.

Remember, no matter how well cared for our fish are, we are still cramming them into tiny glass boxes for our own personal amusement.

that's what i'm saying, most people don't have their fish for many years, its for our amusement either way, whether its a glass or acrylic box, its no comparison to the ocean, river or lake where they come from in terms of size or habitat.

but in many cases, fish would be eaten in the wild, and die off one way or another, but live "longer" in captivity. like arowanas, many will die from predation, dry season, but in captivity, many will live to adulthood.

 

[Pufferpunk]

Most of my fish live well over 10 years. I had a pair of 20 year old elephant noses, until I filled their tank with ice cold water...

 

[fugupuff]

Most of my fish live well over 10 years. I had a pair of 20 year old elephant noses, until I filled their tank with ice cold water...

you must be a really good fish keeper. I can bet that aprox 80% of the hobbyist are not able to keep most of their fish over 5 years,and many not even one year. Myself included, and I've kept fish for over 20 plus years myself, killed, intentional or unintentionally thousands of fish.

If people want to be tree huggers for fish, then they shouldn't keep fish at all. Just from the fish being shipped in from other countries or states alone the fish suffer, and many die. I've experienced this first hand.

Wes

 

[Pufferpunk]

It's not a matter of being a tree hugger--it's just that it is our responsibility to keep these animals whom we have chosen to care for in the healthiest condition/longest-living, that we possibly can. They are living beings--all creatures of God.

 

[Glasman]

I had a Blood Parrot die last year that was almost 15 years old. He was nearly the sizeof a nerf football. He lived almost his whole life in a 55 gallon.