where to find hibernating herps?

[vicedretard]

i find day geckos in trees i decied to climb while in a jungle...or while im rock clinmbing...or in my girfriends yard...or thats it...

 

[Vicious_Fish]

any other tips on finding hibernating herps

I hate to break it to you man, but you're better off waiting till spring.

 

[Connor0729]

i figured that. i've been out searching multiple times, and the coolest thing i've found is a centipede. oh well, i'll just stick to my store bought herps for now

 

[Kioka]

thanks guppy.

i just called ontario fish and game (or whatever its called, i can't remember) and they said that i can collect and keep herps, as long as it isn't a huge amount of them.

if i was to find something and want to keep it, would i be able to aclimate it by slowly warming it up (from outside temps to inside temps) over a period of 2-3 weeks?

thanks for the help guys, and if you don't believe me about the law, call them your self

I get Alberta F&W telling me that it's legal for me to keep native fish, even though people get busted with keeping them...

 

[Connor0729]

I get Alberta F&W telling me that it's legal for me to keep native fish, even though people get busted with keeping them...

so, are you saying that F&W are wrong? if so, thats whack. aren't they the ones that do the 'arresting' or whatever they do? you'd think that they'd know

 

[SimonL]

Don't call them, just look up the Wildlife protection act or whatever it's called. I have read the whole thing in order to see if it's legal to collect herps...This is from the official MNR site...http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_97f41_e.htm

Wildlife in captivity

40. (1) A person shall not keep live game wildlife or live specially protected wildlife in captivity except under the authority of a licence and in accordance with the regulations. 1997, c. 41, s. 40 (1).

Exceptions

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to,

(a) a person who keeps game amphibians or game reptiles in captivity for the purpose of personal consumption;

(b) a person who keeps in captivity for the purpose of personal education a single game reptile, game amphibian, specially protected mammal, specially protected reptile, specially protected amphibian or specially protected invertebrate, if it is not designated by the Committee on the Status of Endangered Wildlife in Canada or the Committee on the Status of Species at Risk in Ontario as endangered, threatened, special concern or vulnerable; or

Note: Effective June 30, 2008 or on an earlier day to be named by proclamation of the Lieutenant Governor, clause (b) is repealed by the Statutes of Ontario, 2007, chapter 6, subsection 60 (2) and the following substituted:
(b) a person who keeps in captivity for the purpose of personal education a single game reptile, game amphibian, specially protected mammal, specially protected reptile, specially protected amphibian or specially protected invertebrate, unless it belongs to a species that is listed on,

(i) the Species at Risk in Ontario List under the Endangered Species Act, 2007, or

(ii) the List of Wildlife Species at Risk under the Species at Risk Act (Canada); or

See: 2007, c. 6, ss. 60 (2), 63 (1).
(c) a person who keeps game wildlife or specially protected wildlife in captivity for any educational or scientific purpose, or for any other purpose, if the person has the authorization of the Minister. 1997, c. 41, s. 40 (2); 2002, c. 18, Sched. L, s. 3.

 

[SimonL]

Also, here's the list of "Specially Protected" herps for Ontario;

Racer, Blue

Rattlesnake, Eastern Massasauga

Skink, Five-lined

Snake, Black Rat

Snake, Butler’s Garter

Snake, Eastern Fox

Snake, Eastern Hognose

Snake, Eastern Smooth Green

Snake, Lake Erie Water

Snake, Milk

Snake, Northern Water

Snake, Queen

Softshell, Eastern Spiny

Turtle, Blanding’s

Turtle, Map

Turtle, Midland Painted

Turtle, Musk

Turtle, Spotted

Turtle, Western Painted

Turtle, Wood

 

[SimonL]

And amphibians...

Frog, Blanchard’s Cricket

Salamander, Blue-spotted

Salamander, Eastern Tiger

Salamander, Four-toed

Salamander, Jefferson

Salamander, Northern Dusky

Salamander, Redback

Salamander, Smallmouth

Salamander, Spotted

Salamander, Two-lined

Toad, Fowler’s

Treefrog, Gray

 

[King Edward]

Going out looking for stuff in the woods is more fun than going to the store...you never know what you'll find! (in my case usually nothing...I was told very reliably that signal crays had invaded our river...three days and nights freezing my arse of and nothing...they hadnt as it turned out. But I got three days in the fresh air chillin' with the kids by the river!) I did catch some little tiny spiders that live under water...they look well cool in my tank!

 

[Kioka]

so, are you saying that F&W are wrong? if so, thats whack. aren't they the ones that do the 'arresting' or whatever they do? you'd think that they'd know

Not everyone know everything in their own department. So the guy arresting you may know the law he studied, but the guy at the desk may not since they haven't read the doument before; and vice versa.

Either way, every Ontario native keepers I know of buy their animals rather than collecting them.