what about a tiger, they grow faster, don't live as long as muskies, and handle warmer water a lot better
which gar?
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hybrid musky/pike. They do grow faster given the food and water quality. If they don't live as long as muskys it's because of imensse fishing preasure on them. being a hybrid they are also more delicate then either. and They do not handle warmer water any better then Northerns or Musky. These fish are in the upper parts of the US and canada for a reason.. none of them survive in warmer waters well. and a small shallow pond is not going to be suitable for these fish.
chain pickerel are your closest bet to them, native to florida they would do better in an outdoor pond, but would likely need to be brought in for the winter. or heat the pond abit. not as farmilular with these fish but they do look like small northern pike.
chain pickerel are your closest bet to them, native to florida they would do better in an outdoor pond, but would likely need to be brought in for the winter. or heat the pond abit. not as farmilular with these fish but they do look like small northern pike.
Can you make the pond deeper and put it in a shaded area? If you do that, then you might be able to maintain a cooler temperature in the pond.
Im from TX and I live by the trinity river and i have seen the devastation of the fish stock because of gars so i would not put any gar in there i would stick with the florida largemouth channel cat NO BOWFIN maybe some bigmouth buffalo NO CARP!! white/black crappie and some species of panfish all a good mix
Wiggles92;4943946; said:
would take quite a bit of depth...the pond isn't large enough in most cases - large Esox will often hang out at or just below a thermocline in order to digest food yet avoid hotter temps...just not a realistic ambition for a pond of that size (area-wise, and therefore depth not really realistic either).
fishcop14;4943988; said:
REALLY? what have you seen? this has generally been refuted in the majority of scenarios.--
--solomon
It's right up against the garage and in the shade of a tree, I've felt the water before when the pond was smaller and it has never gotten above 80 degrees. And not trying to start an argument but of course noone is going to have the capabilities to keep a muskie happy in a pet setting such as a cage or pond. Noone could keep an rtc truly happy, and especially an alligator gar or paima. I went fishing on the amazon last month and trust me, a huge pond or tank to us that would be perfect rtc tank, would be a tiny backwater on the amazon that would never hold a single catfish. But the main point is noone could keep even a fathead minnow happy in an aquarium or small pond setting
E_americanus;4944205; said:
Good point. Even it was reasonably deep, there just simply wouldn't be a large enough volume of water to establish a thermocline and keep the water cool at the bottom, huh?
troppond;4944266; said:
Depends on the metrics you use to determine what is a "happy" RTC or what a "Happy" Gator gar is.
Given that a good portion of my work is actually currently involved in such things, I think I disagree with this whole line of thinking outlined above that a fish cannot be "happy" (Whatever that is to a fish) in captivity.
