Who said you can't have a planted tank with Large aggressive fish?!

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Ya sorry about that, I get some powder algae from the high level of lighting. I could lower my light cycle an hour or two but I'm trying to grow in the tank more first. I scrap the algae off once a week in the mean time.

I use a quad 48inch T5 and a 2foot dual T5 set up. For substrate: I started with just play sand from home depot then I topped it with black inert gravel. This was my first planted tank so I've learned quite a bit since starting. Once the fish out grow the tank, hopefully not for a year or so, I plan on ripping this down and starting a 300 gallon. All black sand and gravel in the next one.

The Pbass used to show more green when the tank was just sand. Once I topped it with the black gravel he went darker. I'm hoping once the tank fills in completely with the foreground carpet that he/she will revert to the bright green color we all know and love. Not sure about everyone else out there but my Pbass changes colors often, from green to golden to black, depending on the surroundings and mood.

Looks Great, just said it because with a perfect glass you could had a pro photo if understand what I mean. Although Datnoids get quite lonely I would recommend put in more 2 at least :)
 
Really nice set up,what are you feeding the fish?
 
The tank is kept at 78-80 degrees which is low for the bass but on the high end for some of the plants. Trying to keep a balance there. Maybe that could cause the lack of bright green color?

I feed them mostly silversides with the occasional blood worms and black worms, I would like to get them on pellets but the dat is already a picky eater and I don't want the bass to outgrow the dat during the pelletization. I've started shoving some pellets into the silversides to increase their nutrition. They were much easier to feed a diverse diet when they were young. Problem now is half the worms don't get eaten and just dirty up the tank. I've tried beef heart and krill but they don't touch them. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I'll clean up the tank better next time I take some photos. Unfortunately the tank has lots of scratches fromt he previous owner.
 
The tank is kept at 78-80 degrees which is low for the bass but on the high end for some of the plants. Trying to keep a balance there. Maybe that could cause the lack of bright green color?

I feed them mostly silversides with the occasional blood worms and black worms, I would like to get them on pellets but the dat is already a picky eater and I don't want the bass to outgrow the dat during the pelletization. I've started shoving some pellets into the silversides to increase their nutrition. They were much easier to feed a diverse diet when they were young. Problem now is half the worms don't get eaten and just dirty up the tank. I've tried beef heart and krill but they don't touch them. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I'll clean up the tank better next time I take some photos. Unfortunately the tank has lots of scratches fromt he previous owner.

Have you considered adding a bottom feeder to clean up the food in the bottom. In one of my tanks there is a silver Aro with 2 BGKs. The BGKs do a real good job cleaning up the food that ends up in the bottom. The other tank has pBass & 1 Flagtail. I always have to siphon the bottom to collect food in that one.
 
I had a common pleco. The thing was massive, would nibble on plants and it's huge armored tail would snap stem plants like karate chops to toothpicks. I donated him to my LFS. Most bottom dwellers I know about don't get big enough, eat plants or get too big and lumber around the bottom ripping up plants or otherwise damage them. I'm open to suggestions though.
 
The low temp could be a factor in the cichla's lack-luster color. With warmer temps he'll color up more. But he looks to be quite healthy. Have you tried massivore pellets yet? My dats loved em. SOmetimes the smell alone from them will entice non-pellet eaters to eat em. It'll be hard in such a heavily planted tank to get the dat onto pellets w/out a clean up crew. Id usually crush up pellets into my bloodworms and get em onto pellets that way.
 
The low temp could be a factor in the cichla's lack-luster color. With warmer temps he'll color up more. But he looks to be quite healthy. Have you tried massivore pellets yet? My dats loved em. SOmetimes the smell alone from them will entice non-pellet eaters to eat em. It'll be hard in such a heavily planted tank to get the dat onto pellets w/out a clean up crew. Id usually crush up pellets into my bloodworms and get em onto pellets that way.


I'll have to give that a try, the dat loves bloodworms. The Pbass will eat anything I put into the tank and I've never seen the bichir eat but the one eyed bastard is fat from something. Damn those massivore pellets are expensive, anyone know an online place that sells them at a good price?
 
im setting up a new south american 150 gallon.. i have a few bigger fish, pikes and a catfish. i want to put live plants in this tank but im worried that they wont have time to root deep enough in my substrate before theyre ripped up.. i have about 4 inches of black sand, thinking if they can root deeper it would help?? any ideas?
thanks.
 
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