Why are EBJDs 10x more expensive than regular JDs?

[japes]

That is totally and completely BS right there. Example Flower Horns. it's a known hybrid and people goto great lengths to get a hold of the different morphs, and spend top dollar for the better looking ones. IF ebjd where to be considered a hybrid I don't see them making them be any less sought after or valuable.

For the people against hybrids do they feel it's also not ok for 2 different races of people to bread? If not then why is it not ok for 2 different fish to bread but ok for humans? Also can anyone who is against hybrids on here give scientific proof that any of the "pure" fish were not crossed between two different fish many many years ago?

Just because Flowerhorns are 'popular' in the US does not mean they're globally accepted in the fish trade. SOME people may go to great lengths to get their hands on different morphs, but SOME people also despise what they do to the hobby.

Humans from around the world are not different species.

Pure fish crossing many many years ago, in nature, which have established sustainable colonies for themselves in the wild? That would be evolution I imagine, not hybridisation. Completely incomparable to sticking two fish together in a few feet of water, pretending to play "god", and facemashing a calculator to decide how much they're worth.

Simple conclusion to my statement would be that purist fishkeepers don't buy hybrids, but not visa versa. Perhaps "kill" wasn't the right word, but lessen, most definitely.

 

[ccebr]

this is a great discussion regarding the origin of the blue gene and the resulting expense associated. having read the linked article, some interesting info here, however I am reluctant to trust this source entirely as it has not been peer reviewed. I have not been able to find any decent referenced work relating to this. has anyone else found any?

 

[Toby_H]

The article previously linked (http://bluejax.co.uk/colourmorph.aspx) is something that a hobbyist put together containing quotes of several different well respected hobbyists alogn with some scienctific data he provided himself. So this is not something that would ever be offered a "peer review" by a scienctist.

The quotes provided were attributed to an author, you can contact the author of each quote to verify it is what they said.

The science explained is nothing to high end or hard to verify...

 

[David R]

There was an excellent article in the July 09 TFH magazine called "Back to the Beginning of the Electric Blues", where the author visited the breeding facility in Brasil where the EBJD first appeared. It seems to be a genetic morph that was able to be selectively bred, although it was a long involved process to obtain a group of breeders and "fix" the blue gene.
Go get a back-issue of the magazine if you're interested, its a good read. There's also an article on breeding A. festae, and on the Geophagus red/orange head Tapajos, Cichla kelberi, Crenicichla strigata, and cichlids from Uruguay, so its a great issue for anyone interested in cichlids!!