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To each their own Fish on Fire. You obviously arent seeing the results ive seen and many who only feed NLS has seen. If i didnt see improvements in my fish that were already growing well and looked gorgeous i wouldnt say a peep, but i have seen differences in overall health and appearance.

NLS is a very low fat food so explosive growth will not be happening as with other brands. Color and growth is gravy but imo feeding NLS is more about lifespan and internal health via the quality ingredients used than getting fish to grow super fast and color up quickly.

About the palatability... Ask anyone what they would rather eat a burger with 1000 calories of junk or the same weight and calories of lean chicken and brussell sprouts and most will say the burger but that doesnt mean its better for you. People shouldnt assume that just because fish take other foods easier that its neccessarily the best thing for the fish. Someone who wants to bulk up really fast can go for the burger and more calories and fat where someone who wants to be in shape and live much healthier will be choosing the chicken. Why should we look differently when we are dealing with our fish?
 
No.... sorry I wasent very clear on that. I used to never feed only one food. I was a big fan of several diffrent brands the "mixed" feeder. my brother inlaw was a strict hikari guy. the tank size was a 150, water changes were performed at 50% one or two times weekly, the jag was, for the most part a solo fish in that tank. It had occasional tankmates< but nothing permenant. It was a wet pet.

As far as it being genetics, thats a possibilty, but IMO/E most any fish that is properly takin care of will live a long time, as far as size goes, we all know that a fish will grow the entire time it is alive. So, if the jag had lived longer, it is possible that it may have reached a bigger more "expected" size. But it did not, it died early. I believe food to be the reason. In no way am I saying you cant have a fish grow, and live a long time on crappy food. I have a pair of 7 year old meeki that spent the first 6 years of life on hikari and omega. I did notice that they slowed down in activity level and reproduction. Their color got pretty drab, adn they just seemed like they only had another year or two left and they would be done. Since the NLS I have seen my fish color up, activity level is way up, still not seeing any spawning but their tubes are down (fingers crossed) im now more then confident that thes guys eil be around for at least another 5 years, they are showing no signs of age.

I am more then confident that water quality was not an issue with the managuense in question, sorry I wanted to be very clear of that.
 
Fish on Fire said:
Where did I say that NLS was all garbage? Read my posts, lol.
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This is a prime example of the "everyone is out to get me" mentality that comes from someone who is always stiring the pot just to stir it.
 
I think just one staple diet is not the way to go. Diversification is the key I think, and therefore I feed a bunch of pellets to my fish.
I should mention that I do dislike NLS personally. Whenever my Xiloaensis eat these pellets, I see a cloud of small NLS particles coming our of their gills. When I feed them Bio Gold+ the food "holds" together better. Water becomes murkier faster if I stay on NLS exclusively.
It is easy to make claims about coloration, vigor etc. but unless there is a scientific, controlled, independent study done comparing foods in market, the claims can not hold. They are just that claims, or opinions. Note that I am not taking any sides, as I said I feed a variety of pellets to my fish, including Hikari and NLS. But as long as people state that such and such statement is a claim, not the absolute truth, its all good. Everyone is entitled to one. And that is what OP was stating: his opinion.
 
I always forget why I dont come on mfk.. lol.

Blanket statement, NLS is currently the best food on the market.

Sorry Forest, dident mean to jump in your thread. You made the right choice by switching to a SUPERIOR food. :)
 
NLS is a very low fat food so explosive growth will not be happening as with other brands. Color and growth is gravy but imo feeding NLS is more about lifespan and internal health via the quality ingredients used than getting fish to grow super fast and color up quickly.
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Fishman, I respect your opinion and get where you are coming from. You obviously have tried the food and think personally, that its the way to go for your fish. However, do you have any scientific/independent study that you can point me to, for the above claim about lifespan and internal health? Any experiment where two controlled environment specimen fed two separate kinds of foods (one NLS and other some other brand) and reporting differences in health, lifespan etc? I would be curious to know more if such study exists....
 
Fish on Fire said:
Eh, only some of the nls formulas are actually as good as advertized. They have several lines that aren't necessarily trash but are nowhere near as good as they claim and charge you for. Just gotta look at the fine print. For example, some of their formulas may list Whole Herring/White Fish/Krill/Squid, but those are the wet weight of the food; when dried and actually blended into the formula the weight of the fish that's used in the pellet is 80% less which drops it way down the list of ingredients. Just gotta know what to look for and be aware of marketing ploys such as the new formula for Thera A jumbo fish. They switched from using the meal to using just the wet weight of the fish and replaced the severe drop in fish protein content with Soy but still try to capitalize on the "Thera A" name despite using inferior ingredients compared to some of their other pellets and charge more for that food as well.
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LOL, and you claim this as a fact? Oh boy.


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Fish on Fire said:
Is it really hard to believe that people get great results with other fish food not sporting the NLS brand? That people can get better results in growth rates, overall fish health, vibrance, etc, when feeding something other than just NLS?
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Most pellets on the market today will do pretty well raising cichlids for a while. How many of those pellets can keep a fish like a moorish idol alive?
BTW, how many of those show quality fish have you raised on other foods, being a 24 year old student? Please post some pictures!

I've seen beautiful fish raised on turkey hot dogs. Does that mean they're actually healthy? Getting the correct macro and micro nutrient levels? Getting the ideal amino acids? Not getting fatty deposits on their liver?

How many show quality Central American cichlids have we seen on MFK die too early in the last year? Mojo's male zonatus, two big male Midas...

Sorry about your AFRICAN cichlids not coloring up how you'd like. Maybe they were low quality or hormone'd prior to you buying them?


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TheOscarGuy said:
I think just one staple diet is not the way to go. Diversification is the key I think, and therefore I feed a bunch of pellets to my fish.
I should mention that I do dislike NLS personally. Whenever my Xiloaensis eat these pellets, I see a cloud of small NLS particles coming our of their gills. When I feed them Bio Gold+ the food "holds" together better. Water becomes murkier faster if I stay on NLS exclusively.
It is easy to make claims about coloration, vigor etc. but unless there is a scientific, controlled, independent study done comparing foods in market, the claims can not hold. They are just that claims, or opinions. Note that I am not taking any sides, as I said I feed a variety of pellets to my fish, including Hikari and NLS. But as long as people state that such and such statement is a claim, not the absolute truth, its all good. Everyone is entitled to one. And that is what OP was stating: his opinion.
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I hear you on the pellets breaking apart when the fish chew. With NLS, because there's minimal starch, the food is extruded at higher pressure, making them harder. This means you have to feed a smaller pellet than a comparable starchy food like Hikari. You could also try a floating formula like 4.5 mm, which tends to absorb water faster and soften more (this would actually be most comparable to the larger bio gold pellet, which I think they call "medium" size?).


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