Why "specifically" are asian arows illegal in US?

[Chaos32]

I don't recall when the actual ban went down in the US. But, I bought a green and a blue in 1992-93 from a lfs for $39.99 each. The law changed sometime in 95-96.

Is it possible to share pics of the blue?

 

[Oddball]

Being bred in captivity won't change the law. Asian aro farms received their licenses to operate under the agreement that a portion of their spawns would be released to strengthen wild populations. This has yet to be done. No government department has stepped up to the plate to take responsibility of transporting the aros back to wild waters. Nor, has any agency taken over the duty of studying wild population numbers to determine whether or not the aro populations are on the rebound. Until a recognized agency performs the required studies and fish counts, there is nothing to present to get the current laws changed.

 

[Oddball]

Is it possible to share pics of the blue?

No chance. I sold them before transferring back to sea. By the time I transferred back to shore duty, the ban was in place and I couldn't replace my aros.

 

[Chaos32]

No chance. I sold them before transferring back to sea. By the time I transferred back to shore duty, the ban was in place and I couldn't replace my aros.

Thanks. Tell u what thought...at that price even back then it looked to be a bargain since I assume when u say blue u meant a blue base asian be it a gold or red.

 

[xrtg]

I know that they are legal in Canada. I also know that they are endangered. I think I know that they aren't legal anywhere having been taken directly from asian waters. I do know that they are breeding them in captivity in asia. I kind of suspect that the deal in asia is "okay, we will licence you to breed these but for so many offspring you produce, so many have to be returned to the wild". I also know that the asians closely monitor these breedings and breeders are required to micro-chip them so that anywhere in the world they go, it can very easily be proven that your fish came from a breeder and not the wild. So, My question is "what is the problem that the US has with this process?" Is it environmental concerns?

the real problem is that the farms are breeding them but they are not returning any back to the wild to improve or increase the population in the wild.

 

[Im4u2nV]

FYI,

Breeding aros are not an easy job and by returning any back to the wild is the same as burn the money to ashes....

in breeders' point of view, returning some to the wild is just plain stupid and they will say some people might actually 'caught' aros they returned...

yes i agree until now i'm absolutely sure there's no agency whatsoever who step up and require breeders to return super red aros to the wild...

 

[jl1]

very ineresting...

 

[Jesse]

When was the last time they were legal to bring in?

Scleropages formosus was listed under the Endangered Species Act in 1976 along w/ a group of CITES App. I species. Here's the USFWS fact sheet on S. formosus:

http://ecos.fws.gov/species_profile...s_profile.servlets.SpeciesProfile?spcode=E01U

I'm not sure how Phil got his Asian arows in 1992-1993, but perhaps they were remnant stock from captive populations originating before the 1976 listing.

 

[Oddball]

Scleropages formosus was listed under the Endangered Species Act in 1976 along w/ a group of CITES App. I species. Here's the USFWS fact sheet on S. formosus:

http://ecos.fws.gov/species_profile...s_profile.servlets.SpeciesProfile?spcode=E01U

I'm not sure how Phil got his Asian arows in 1992-1993, but perhaps they were remnant stock from captive populations originating before the 1976 listing.

In 1976, asian aros were outrageously priced at $19.99 each. (understand that most bread & butter fish were 10 to 99 cents each back then)

 

[Jesse]

In 1976, asian aros were outrageously priced at $19.99 each. (understand that most bread & butter fish were 10 to 99 cents each back then)

One of my first LFS memories was from 1975 or so. I recall seeing the 125-gallon display tank and thinking, "What a HUGE tank!!!" That tank included a two-foot silver arowana, some CA/SA cichlids, and two 8-10" widebar dats that were selling for an outrageous $17 each!