Wild caught silvers are no slouches

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Neil neither you or del are importers, exporters or aro collectors. You're merely a currently dormant yet enthusiastic hobbyist. So your 2 opinions carry no more weight than RTFs.
 
rumblesushi;498190; said:
Exactly, why do you think the influx of tigs neil? Fishermen's sons are now in on the act? No, because they are hormone bred in captivity.

Where is proof of this? Find me a couple internet links.


Also to make things clearer for you, the guy imported these fish for me, just for me, only 1 marulius and 1 silver aro and 1 cuban gar. In Spain people don't keep fish, especially predators. In a LFS here you can't even buy an oscar. This guy who's been selling fish for 7 years in Spain told me in 7 years he's sold under 10 aros, and not 1 snakehead or gar. They are the only channas/gars he's ever imported, and he was quite fascinated with them. So tell me - what would his motive be for lying when I asked where they were from? It's not even like he said, oh yeah they're all wild caught, or they're all captive bred. He said the channa was captive bred and the silver was wild.

So your silver arowana is wild caught? hmm.. imagine that!!! I thought they stopped capturing them because its not worth it! Asia breeds them by the truckloads remember? why are they still collecting?



Bold.
 
PeacockBass;498182; said:
Because you are neither an importer, collector, or exporter. You have no experience in the fish industry with Arowana.


Opinion has no room in this thread. We need facts.


Then you should not be on this thread either. All your posts do not contain hard data..



And what about you , why not post your facts here?

Again , Farm Bred Silvers are from Asia, wild caught silvers are from South America .
I wil get facts for you , but in the meantime, i highly suggest that you tone down a little. :)
 
redtailfool;498176; said:
Del - most of the silver arowanas that we get here in the US are fram bred from southeast asia, not south america.


Damn, looks like we are on the same side this time.

I think they are farm bred:popcorn:
 
redtailfool;498197; said:
Then you should not be on this thread either. All your posts do not contain hard data..



And what about you , why not post your facts here?

Again , Farm Bred Silvers are from Asia, wild caught silvers are from South America .
I wil get facts for you , but in the meantime, i highly suggest that you tone down a little. :)

see, thats the beauty about my side. Logic is my fact.

Arowana have ALWAYS been brought in via collecting. Anyone who disputes this, is confused.

Now, you are suggesting ALL of these store purchased Arowana, are captive bred. You are suggesting this based on no hard evidence, but rather the IDEA that because there are Asian Arowana farms, there must surely be SA Arow farms.


There is breeding going on, but not on the scale you are suggesting. Just like Rays, there are captive bred rays being sold, but most of them are wild caught.


I dont need "Facts" like your side, because I hold firm that not much of anything has changed in in the industry. You are on the side that is opposing the "old" methods of collecting and suggesting it has completely changed with in a few years.

"tone it down"?

No. Take your Abused mod powers some where else. WHen you sent me that last email, I forwarded it to most of the mods, and they had no idea what you were going on about. I have heard nothing from Jed or Neo, My 2 very good friends, either. Which leads me to think, you are abusing your powers like you did before because you dislike me.

Either way, I havent done anything wrong in these posts.
 
Yeah wes, that's his hard facts :D

Lets see so far all we have is del quoting one of oddballer's posts and Neil patting his little protege on the back for it :D

The Neil quotes someone who he's probably never spoken to before, and whose credentials he has no idea about, that's their hard cold evidence.

Neil Email this address- karen.youngs@emap.com

She is the editor of practical fishkeeping monthly, the most respected fish mag in the UK. Ask her if she could sell you a a back issue, the one where they ran an article on hormone bred tigs.
 
redtailfool;498199; said:
LOL you consider that as fact? This is your hard data?

Did I say this? nope.

But if what he claims is correct, then that disproves you all.

It does make perfect sense though. But you can keep disagreeing because you like it.
 
Neil, things do change - variants of Asian aros, various hybrids like flowerhorns, blood parrots, RTC/TSN crosses are just some examples of the developing world of fish farms.
 
And Neil - like I said, the importer told me the silver was wild caught and the channa was captive bred - why would he lie about that?
 
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