I stand corrected. I read your post and then checked the link again. He does use the word Belly Sister a few times with other cichlids. At first I thought it way a typo but it looks like it does have another meaning. Maybe you are right. I have never heard of this term before.
Wild strain trimacs vs "pyro" trimacs?
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Interesting read, and some excellent posts by Ed, JD, and Matt.
This one really struck a cord with me.
In my early years of keeping cichlids I came across numerous breeders of wild fish, who in many cases had no idea of the actual collection location of their fish. Add to the equation some new unknown wild females, or a new unknown wild male, and you might as well be keeping & breeding LFS specimens. The breeding of wild fish sans the actual collection location seems to be quite common in this hobby, at least from what I've seen over the years.
Nowadays I'm more into pretty fish, so I don't really care where they come from, or what someone wants to call them.
This one really struck a cord with me.
In my early years of keeping cichlids I came across numerous breeders of wild fish, who in many cases had no idea of the actual collection location of their fish. Add to the equation some new unknown wild females, or a new unknown wild male, and you might as well be keeping & breeding LFS specimens. The breeding of wild fish sans the actual collection location seems to be quite common in this hobby, at least from what I've seen over the years.
Nowadays I'm more into pretty fish, so I don't really care where they come from, or what someone wants to call them.
He was at the Don Conkel talk. He hadd one of Don's old books and got it signed. I think he sells for of Don's fish too.
What is ACS?
What show?
"Sire
Real Hard Cichlids-King Max Best in Show 4 times"
Matt
What show?
"Sire
Real Hard Cichlids-King Max Best in Show 4 times"
Matt
I don't know what the ACS is, but doesn't it sound impressive? I believe he claims he has won show awards at "cichlids.com" as well. Huh....?????
I was being sarcastic to highlight the credibility issue. But seriously, I don't discount his passion - he is not the only one who names his fish as pets, albeit maybe not to the lengths of an AKC registry equivalence. Maybe he is creating his own rules, but God bless him, he is into the hobby in big way and he cares.
What a thread to come back to from vacation. I am very familiar with RHC and honestly don't care for how he keeps his fish. Everything is in dog terms, I have seen videos of him fighting his fish, and everything with him in general is "Ghetto-riffick". I am sure I am going to get comments on that, but I am familiar enough with him to know. Beleive me, he has removed a lot of videos he had up from the past that would prove my point.
That being said, its just line bred Trimacs as long as he is being honest about the family tree and their legitimacy. From what his tree line says, it is legit. However, I would ask to see a digital receipt from his fish if you question it. I have gotten/kept everyone Jeff has sent me so people can see my fish are from a reputable source.
Also, I have never liked when people give a regular fish a new name for a fish to hype it. There is a certain vendor that sells great fish, that has Midas listed as "San Juan Black" Citrinellus. Again, confusing.
Thats not exactly the same. Your breeding Trimacs to Trimacs and giving them a new name to hype them. Those are different fish from the Amphilophus family that have been collected in different places and have different features such as size, build, facial structure, and eating habits. Zaliousis for example is open water and more predatory then Citrinellus which prefer sticking to shallower water with cover. My Zal was barred and there was no way you could mistake him for a Midas even though he was very thick and bulky. So in the end, you don't just have Midas. In this instance though, you just have a Trimac.
That being said, its just line bred Trimacs as long as he is being honest about the family tree and their legitimacy. From what his tree line says, it is legit. However, I would ask to see a digital receipt from his fish if you question it. I have gotten/kept everyone Jeff has sent me so people can see my fish are from a reputable source.
Also, I have never liked when people give a regular fish a new name for a fish to hype it. There is a certain vendor that sells great fish, that has Midas listed as "San Juan Black" Citrinellus. Again, confusing.
Thats not exactly the same. Your breeding Trimacs to Trimacs and giving them a new name to hype them. Those are different fish from the Amphilophus family that have been collected in different places and have different features such as size, build, facial structure, and eating habits. Zaliousis for example is open water and more predatory then Citrinellus which prefer sticking to shallower water with cover. My Zal was barred and there was no way you could mistake him for a Midas even though he was very thick and bulky. So in the end, you don't just have Midas. In this instance though, you just have a Trimac.
Right, I was referring only to the amphilphus comment he had made about "Midas." Trimacs bred with trimacs are obviously not hybrids IF that's what he's doing. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
My bad, just went back and saw that. I thought that didn't exactly sound like your logic. Thats what I get for responding after a 13hr trip, lol.
