Wtf Jags are illegal?

[VRWC]

Uh, people working for the federal government (feds) would not enforce a Utah stat ban. That is the jurisdiction of the Utah state law enforcement. The feds only enforce 'fed'eral bans.

Uh, when it falls under a Fish and Wildlife issue, yes they do. Local and State police arent responsible for wildlife issues. Its why there are such bureaus as Fish and Wildlife, Forestry etc. Local and state police arent versed in those laws as part of their training.

If I go off the coast here where I live and catch fish that arent regulation size, its not the police who stop me or fine me or arrest me for doing so. If I go to a lake here and let cichlids go, its not the police that will do anything about it (or will even know what Im doing). If I use illegal nets to catch fish, its not the police or state troopers jurisdiction to do anything about it. Its either the Coast Guard or US Fish and Wildlife (both federal) in all cases regarding all wildlife.

 

[pcfriedrich]

Uh, I know that in florida the 'Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission' are who enforce state wildlife/exotic species laws. They drive trucks with a picture of a badge, and 'state law enforcement' written on the side. they are 'well versed' in those laws. that is their only job. They are the same people that issue hunting licenses and exotic species permits.

Laws vary from state to state. Federal agents wouldn't be 'well versed' enough in the laws of every individual state to do an effective job. Now, on federal land, such as a national park, national forest, national wildlife refuge... the 'feds' would be the ones responsible. On state owned land, state parks, state forests, towns, cities, municipalities, counties... state laws apply and it is the state's responsibility to enforce those laws.

 

[I<3fish]

Uh, when it falls under a Fish and Wildlife issue, yes they do. Local and State police arent responsible for wildlife issues. Its why there are such bureaus as Fish and Wildlife, Forestry etc. Local and state police arent versed in those laws as part of their training.

If I go off the coast here where I live and catch fish that arent regulation size, its not the police who stop me or fine me or arrest me for doing so. If I go to a lake here and let cichlids go, its not the police that will do anything about it (or will even know what Im doing). If I use illegal nets to catch fish, its not the police or state troopers jurisdiction to do anything about it. Its either the Coast Guard or US Fish and Wildlife (both federal) in all cases regarding all wildlife.

No. Feds are only responsible for federal land and federally banned species (your example of the snakehead in the Potomac did not support your statement.)

 

[pcfriedrich]

No. Feds are only responsible for federal land and federally banned species (your example of the snakehead in the Potomac did not support your statement.)

Thanks!

Anyway, on the original topic. I used to know a guy that drove across state lines to buy piranha because they were illegal in his state. He was responsible (didn't release the fish in the wild, display them in public, or sell them) and never got caught. Of course, I'm just giving an anectdote from my life's experience. I would never suggest a ]v[onsterfishkeeper break any law.

 

[VRWC]

Uh....the 'Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission' are a commission that falls under the Federal Department of The EPA. While the may enforce state laws, they are still a federal commission, governed by the Environmental Protection Agency...so they are "feds".

The same goes with every state wildlife enforcement agency...there are federal laws that are enforced by each states wildlife and game agency, as well as local ones, so again, while they may be local guys/gals working for the state commissions etc, they are still governed by federal laws/statutes etc and have to enforce the federal laws as well as local ones.

All the matters in this minute, pointless topic that you felt you had to correct me on, is who the commissions/ agencies etc have to report to. They all uphold/enforce federal law/ agency rules, making them, at the end of the day, federal.

To my knowledge, there is no branch of fish/wildlife enforcement in the USA that doesnt have a federal boss.

 

[VRWC]

No. Feds are only responsible for federal land and federally banned species (your example of the snakehead in the Potomac did not support your statement.)

wrong.

This is pointless with you guys. youre all just guessing at what it is with no obvious experience/history in dealing with this. And its even apparent that, like a lot of people here as of late, you dont even bother to use google to research things before you interject your "opinion"...instead using 7th grade word associations because of the term "Fed".

My snakehead comment was a perfect example. Sorry you didnt understand it.

Im done explaining how the US Governmental Departments work in relation to US State Laws and with the derailing of the OPs thread. Sorry OP.

 

[pcfriedrich]

http://myfwc.com/ABOUT/index.htm

Doesn't say anything about the federal government here...

By your logic, my local sheriff is a federal agent.

All local law enforcement are supposed to enforce federal law. I say 'supposed to' because often times they don't. Legal medical marijuana in california is a good example. That is a violation of federal law, but the local cops tolerate it.

Anyway, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission was formed by the STATE LEGISLATURE of FLORIDA. Its agents are STATE EMPLOYEES. Federal wildlife agents would have jurisdiction over federal land and interstate trafficking.

 

[pcfriedrich]

wrong.

This is pointless with you guys. youre all just guessing at what it is with no obvious experience/history in dealing with this. And its even apparent that, like a lot of people here as of late, you dont even bother to use google to research things before you interject your "opinion"...instead using 7th grade word associations because of the term "Fed".

My snakehead comment was a perfect example. Sorry you didnt understand it.

Im done explaining how the US Governmental Departments work in relation to US State Laws and with the derailing of the OPs thread. Sorry OP.

Yes it is pointless. Pointless because you are wrong and refuse to admit it. Federal Wildlife Agents do not enforce State Wildlife Laws, except on federal land.

 

[Experiment397]

ok well we know jags are illdegal, and thats all i care about quite frankly.

 

[alexmuw]

i might just send the utah feds a letter

No such thing as Utah Federal government. Your thinking State Government.